Need input/opinions on best 1.17 FG grinder

[ivalmian]

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This deck has ~70% win rate against fg based on 20 games (more stats are welcome).. as of today

35 upped cards, including upped miracle and eternity...

2 quints are for druid and oty
2 protects are for eternity and either pillars or hourglass

I draw very aggressively, use eternity to not deck out.. you should be able to go through all 35 cards in <15 turns... very important to not loose druid and I would suggest to hold out on playing oty until you have quint.. however, since you have 2 otys, if opponent has strong creatures, then it's ok to play oty without quint... I wouldn't put quint on elite ffq though.. if you loose ffq, may be a good idea to put protect on graveyard.. as a way to make more creatures, however, always leave one protect to be played on eternity... I usually don't play eternity early on since it may be more useful to steal enemy weapon.. ofc... if god has steals/explodes then don't play eternity until you can protect it..


Mark is Time

[elfreth]

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This deck has ~70% win rate against fg based on 20 games (more stats are welcome).. as of today

35 upped cards, including upped miracle and eternity...

2 quints are for druid and oty
2 protects are for eternity and either pillars or hourglass
...
Mark is Time

I'm looking forward to giving it a try!  Will let you know how it works out!

[ivalmian]

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1834.msg19901#msg19901 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1834.msg19901#msg19901)

This deck has ~70% win rate against fg based on 20 games (more stats are welcome).. as of today

35 upped cards, including upped miracle and eternity...

2 quints are for druid and oty
2 protects are for eternity and either pillars or hourglass
...
Mark is Time

I'm looking forward to giving it a try!  Will let you know how it works out!

Thanks!

Remember, the deck works as advertised only with all cards upped! It's also critical to have both improved miracle and eternity (the two rares).

Ofc, if you get  divine glory and rainbow just quit.. Graviton is extremly difficult unless you get a quinted oty + rain of fire very early since it is difficult to control his momentumed creatures as they have high health... Seism, hermes and the poison gods can be a pain but beatable if you get the right cards... Ferox, gemini, miracle, ffq, elidnis, and obliterator are all very high win probability.

[Bu3no2]

So far, this seems to work wonders! Thnx Ivalmian!

[ivalmian]

I'm glad you like it! yeah, this is a very fast way to grind, I mean, even when compared with more thorough decks since it's like almost the same winning percentage as the best decks, except it's incredibly fast matches

And there isn't a terrible learning curve, just use your creatures/quint/protects wisely. It's also great in PVP as I have played/beaten a few 20-30k range players who were running pvp decks... ab all upped shriker rush still kills me though.

[Bu3no2]

haha well it's a really good FG grinder deck I can even win with a pretty decent ratio against Seism with this I really like the speed and the posibilities it offers. Only real problem is when you get rushed without being able to get through your cards with hourglass.

[elfreth]

Got a few games in, enjoyed it alot.  Got a few more this evening, and keep getting eternity as the last card in my deck.  You know, that makes it impossible to win, so maybe needs a 2nd eternity, this way you can't get repeatedly screwed by the "random" shuffle placing eternity as your last card? 

This evening I've lost every game, and not against FGs just AI5 to "warm up"...eternity as the last card in your deck has to just be REALLY bad luck with draws.

[elfreth]

Sigh...haven't seen a shield of any kind in the last 15 games...guess how they've ended.

Certainly not anywhere near 50% at the moment...

[Delreich]

Yeah, 70% is very optimistic. I'm thinking you'll need to be quite the lucky effer to even make 50%.

Of course, I might be somewhat biased because of my usual horrible luck. Even Miracle has stomped me more often than I'd like.

[ivalmian]

Um... probability of decking out with no eternity is 1 in 35... so that means about 3% of your games should be lost because of this.. not getting a shield in 15 games, where there are 4 shields in 35 cards (+ miracle) and it's a speed deck is also VERY unlikely ... I wouldn't add a second eternity (nor do I have one) since it's an extra card and not having it only screws you 3% of the games...

A few notes, again, don't try to fight rainbow and divine glory.. just quit.. it's going to be a loss anyways...  for the remaining gods, I stand by my 70% estimate, I won like 29 out of 43 games I last played which is 67%... and frankly a few of them were accidental losses (ie, i decked myself out with an hourglass once, I forgot to use eternity twice, I didn't draw eternity 'till the very end once). ... if you don't count them then it's 29 of 39 which is 74%... again, just quitting on rainbow and divine (and not counting them)...

Try to play shields in order bonewall -> phase shield -> phase shield -> bone wall... Don't play miracle till you are about to die... I mean.. there IS a learning curve with this deck...

[YoYoBro]

What about destiny and elidnis?

[elfreth]

I can attest that Elidnis has been an easy win with this deck.  (barring any poor draws)

And yes, I apparently do have the worse luck w/ draws ever.  With 3 hourglasses, you'd think you'd get one and be able to draw extra cards w/ this deck...I've had very poor luck lately getting any and being forced to discard rather often.  Don't take it personally, ivalmian....my luck does not mean your deck isn't great!  I still enjoy it when lady "luck" isn't treating me like a $2 whore...