As requested in my new unupped FG counter thread, here are my personal FG counters. Since they were built (or stolen from forums) for myself, some contain nymphs, or at least in one case, even marks, so they weren't intended for general community use, but hopefully someone can make some use out of them.
AKEBONO (Liquid Antimatter, with lots of nymphs) 17-4
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CHAOS LORD (PDials) 6-2
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DARK MATTER (slightly modded PDials) 12-1
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DECAY (modded CCYB) 2-0
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DESTINY (PDials) 5-0
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DIVINE GLORY (Adrenastaves) 15-2
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DREAM CATCHER (Dune Scorp/Control) 4-1
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ELIDNIS (Monogravity control) 5-2
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ETERNAL PHOENIX (Bonestorm) 10-3
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FEROX (500 HP PURPLE NYMPH/SoP stall) 2-0
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FIRE QUEEN: (S(t)oP! Hammertime) 2-0
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GEMINI: (PDials) 7-0
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GRAVITON (PDials) 7-0
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HECATE (Quinted purple nymphs) 10-2
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HERMES (SoW/reflect) 8-4
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INCARNATE (Fractal voodoo + Dims) 18-0
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JEZEBEL (Gravity control + PA off the mark) 11-1
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LIONHEART: (500hp EM with flying morning glories) 3-0
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MIRACLE (Overdriven PUgons) 18-0
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MORTE (Blue Nymph Rainbow Stall) 7-2
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NEPTUNE (35 card pdials) 2-0
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OBLITERATOR (SoW/Mirror) 3-1
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OCTANE (500 HP EM with mirror shields) 29-2
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OSIRIS (Pdials) 5-1
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PARADOX (Mitospider/SoG/Dims) 2-0
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RAINBOW (SoW/mirror) 3-1
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SCORPIO (PDials) 2-1
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Alternate deck (needs revising probably) 2-2
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2) No purifies drawn the entire game; probably would've won if I'd gotten one
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SERKET (Wings) 18-1
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However, I got to thinking one day about whether a 500hp EM deck was possible. I've only tried it once, but it won 1-0.
Give it a shot; I think it's probably even better than the first deck, but with only one test, I can't say for sure.
SEISM (aether/air shield stall) 3-3
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