Which RoL/Hope cards should I upgrade first for FG farm?

[bob t billdr]

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This is what I'm using at the moment, and I am having an exactly 50% win/loss rate in the past 40 games. I have gotten 8 upgraded cards so far.
What should I upgrade first? In order?

[thispersonisagenius]

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This version has a higher chance of drawing Hope, a higher chance of drawing your damaging dragons, and is more streamlined than a 32-card deck. It's the standard RoL/Hope (there are some variations, though).
Upgrading order should (I think) be as follows:
1. Lobotomizers (So that the lobotomization cost is less)
2. Aether Pillars/Pendulums (So that you can get the quanta to Fractal faster)
3. Fractals (So it costs less, this is more vital than it appears)
4. Golden Dragons (It is recommended to upgrade two Guardian Angels to Archangels and replace the Golden Dragons with those for more damage efficiency)
5. Hope (For that one extra damage reduction, upgraded last because the extra quanta cost can hurt sometimes)

Hope this helped!

[ddevans96]

The next thing to upgrade is Lobotomizers, unless you want to keep them unupped for PvP events. In that case, either Aether Towers, Aether Pends, or Fractals.

[bob t billdr]

Here's a slight edit to the deck that will make it more efficient:

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5la 5la 5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61u 61u 61u 622 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 8pu

This version has a higher chance of drawing Hope, a higher chance of drawing your damaging dragons, and is more streamlined than a 32-card deck. It's the standard RoL/Hope (there are some variations, though).
Upgrading order should (I think) be as follows:
1. Lobotomizers (So that the lobotomization cost is less)
2. Aether Pillars/Pendulums (So that you can get the quanta to Fractal faster)
3. Fractals (So it costs less, this is more vital than it appears)
4. Golden Dragons (It is recommended to upgrade two Guardian Angels to Archangels and replace the Golden Dragons with those for more damage efficiency)
5. Hope (For that one extra damage reduction, upgraded last because the extra quanta cost can hurt sometimes)

Hope this helped!

Alright so I have enough to upgrade 3 cards. would it be more efficient to switch the dragons for archangels now? I upgraded one Lobotomizer, and was thining of upgrading a fractal and put one archangel in. Would it be better to just do all 3 Lobo's, then save up for the towers?

[thispersonisagenius]

This depends on what you think is more important. Do you want faster, more efficient damage or do you want to have much more success against FG's that require you to use lobotomy? What I did was upgrade my Pillars/Pendulums first after RoLs, then Electrocutors, then Fractals, then Archangels, then Hopes.
Basically, two choices:

1. Upgrade 2 more Lobotomizers - Helps for pretty much all FG's, most notably Osiris (his Pharaohs and SoFo will eat you alive, literally), Fire Queen (completely shuts her down), Destiny (renders Fate Eggs useless), Morte and Incarnate (so Retrovirii don't destroy your RoLs), Lionheart (don't allow his Crusaders and flown Eternities to Reverse Time you to death), Paradox (stops his RoL's from making quanta to Miracle/Bless his creatures, stops Deja Vu's from multiplying), Elidnis (stops his main strategy of building up Forest Spirits, stops Ulitharids from making your RoLs useless), Akebono and Gemini (stops their Momentum creatures), Dream Catcher (rid his various creatures of skills), and Dark Matter (stops his Nymphs and Otyughs from doing what they do).

2. Upgrade two Archangels, replacing two Golden Dragons - more efficiency in getting your high-damage dealers out fast. A little worse at sudden blasts for those Miracle FG's, but still the much preferred choice.

Don't let the huge disparity in length between the two choices fool you. Either is a good option, it just depends on what you want to do, and what you're seeing often.