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Chriskang's Trainer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=812.msg7626#msg7626
« on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »
For those of you who have missed it yet, I'm hosting a version of Zanzarino's Trainer on my personal site:
http://chriskang.free.fr/trainer/trainer.html (http://chriskang.free.fr/trainer/trainer.html)

As I'm highly concerned by Zanzarino's copyrights, I took great care of not modifying the game client in any way. So no bug fix, no new content, no AI change and please, don't ask me to do it.
In particular, the ads on the page (the one that is displayed in flash while the game loads AND the html banner below) are still connected to Zanzarino's account. So don't hesitate to click them if you want to support the game creator.

The only change that I made is letting the client load a different card database.
This card database contains:
- all 12 starter decks
- all builds for AI2, AI3 and Fake Gods
- the list of all cards available in the bazaar

I can change those parameters at will but nothing else. Don't ask me to create new cards, this would require changes in the swf client.

For now, I modified the following things:
- list of cards available in the bazaar (I added all rare cards and even some others that should never be visible like "Mark of Elements" and "Empty permanent slot")
- changed the builds of Fake Gods to include player created ones.

The list of my FG's basic build is here:
http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/User:Chriskang/Sandbox/13 (http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/User:Chriskang/Sandbox/13)
Remember that the final build used in game is exactly the double of the basic ones described there.

Most of those builds where suggested by forum users in this thread:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,602.msg5906#msg5906 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,602.msg5906#msg5906)
Feel free to contribute there if you have new build ideas. I'll add them in my trainer if they're original enough.
Before submitting a new suggestion, please remember that:
- the current AI should be able to play your build efficiently. Your strategy should not rely on special tricks like rewinding a creature forever with Eternity or protecting a given artifact.
- all cards in the deck have to be present in an even number
- for AI decks there is no restriction in the total number of card (you can put more than 120 if you want) and each card can be present in more than 6 exemplary
- try to be creative, and please do not submit decks that are only made of your 4 favorite cards

You're welcome to give feedback on the 11 current FG in this thread.
For new FG ideas, please answer here:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,602.msg5906#msg5906 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,602.msg5906#msg5906)
For starter decks/AI3 decks, please create a new thread.

Good luck fighting those new Gods :)

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Chriskang's Trainer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=812.msg7627#msg7627
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

Wow.. that is awesome.

Zanz should hire you for sure.

chriskang

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Chriskang's Trainer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=812.msg7628#msg7628
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

Wow.. that is awesome.

Zanz should hire you for sure.
Thanks SG.
There are builds from you everywhere in this forum but not in the suggestion thread.
Do you think one of your creation could be correctly played by the AI? I'd be happy to add it in the trainer.

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Chriskang's Trainer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=812.msg7629#msg7629
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

Wow.. that is awesome.

Zanz should hire you for sure.
Thanks SG.
There are builds from you everywhere in this forum but not in the suggestion thread.
Do you think one of your creation could be correctly played by the AI? I'd be happy to add it in the trainer.
That was probably the only thread on this forum where I didn't post anything. Doh! :)

Thanks for the offer. I might cook something up tomorrow if I have time. Now I need to go get some sleep because it's getting late in this part of the globe.

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Chriskang's Trainer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=812.msg7630#msg7630
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

This is awesome Chris!  I love it.  I just beat my Flying Rainbow deck with EM.  I'll have to go back to that thread and tweak it.  He wasn't playing a whole lot of cards for some reason (I think he had a handful of animate weapons cards).  Keep up the good work.  I might think up of some more interesting god ideas now that we can actually see it.  Again, great work.

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Chriskang's Trainer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=812.msg7631#msg7631
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

What are the chances of getting some of the 'classic' decks from around here added to the trainer, say, replacing the "play a training match" option?

I'd like to have a place to test t50/pvp decks against things like Speed Poison, Speed Rainbow, etc, and t50 isn't reliable enough when it comes to finding them.

BTW, you should also post something somewhere that would allow us appreciative players to support you (i.e. paypal donate button).  ;)

Also: would a moderator consider stickying this one?

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P.S. I edited the decklist for 'Magazine'; could you update it?  :)  plzthx!
If something happens and you think it deserves my attention, feel free to PM me. Other than that, I'm probably here if you want to shoot the breeze.

Chriskang's Trainer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=812.msg7632#msg7632
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

*stickied*

I LOVE this, lol! I was surprised to see my Deja Vu deck at the top of the list on the Wiki, too! XD I really hope that Zanzarino contacts us soon. =/

Chriskang's Trainer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=812.msg7633#msg7633
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

I just finished playing some of the new Fake Gods with a couple different types of decks, and was astounded at how well the computer played Paradox, lol. I noticed that Celestial Fire and Magazine have some problems because they run Sundials, but these are very well built, and are much stronger than the original Fake Gods. o-o

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Chriskang's Trainer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=812.msg7634#msg7634
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

That's fantastic!!!!
these decks are amazing, even if we can see that we hadnt made them to be played by cpu :)
Thank you Chriskang!!!!

About my deck:
Tsunami: Cards numbers are unbalanced but it works, i'll probably put more dragons and some bolt to sharpen it.
By now if you get your pulverizer on early you'll manage to win, if you dont you must wait to see poseidon fly to eat/mutate it. Probably i'll put more protect artifact (6 x 2) because a protected poseidon on weapon slot means you'll NEVER get towers, and this is pain!
His major problem is that a flying weapons loses his protection.
Good tactic but too few aggressive

About others i must say they are real fun, even if most of them has huge weak points, more than classic FGs, because they're probably not thought keeping in mind that cpu will play them.


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Chriskang's Trainer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=812.msg7635#msg7635
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

Okay, this is super fun. lol

I really like the concepts, although some translate better to the AI than some. Chris, your light/gravity deck is much faster than it looks. I like it. That other deck, 'Invincibility', is just plain wrong! I beat it, but it is all kinds of crazy. And I was quite surprised at how effective my flying gavel deck was. Even with a slow start, it eventually just chokes you out. Well done, man.

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Chriskang's Trainer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=812.msg7636#msg7636
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

second that. nice job had loads of fun playin the new FG.



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Chriskang's Trainer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=812.msg7978#msg7978
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:07 pm »

I officially love you. I can test new decks and stuff and don't have to worry about money or anything.

 

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