VAULT

[The Oracle]

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Round 1:
Salvage +24
Discard -18

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[xKelevra]

Weapons: I'd say we go with 18 discords. Don't think we'd need any more weapons.

Shields: fog and dusk

Critters: I think we should take dragons, aboms, maxwell's, and lycans. From other elements, I'd like to request graboids, devourers, photons, and vampires.

Critter control: freeze, reverse time, basilisk blood, antimatter, gravity pull(?), chaos seed, thunderbolt

Perm control: Quicksand, butterfly effect, steal(?), deflag(?)

Spells: Quint, mutation(?), black hole, liquid shadow(?), nova

Nymphs: this is a toss-up. maybe we should post which unupped nymphs we have? I have an unupped time, dark, and queen.

Pillars: 60-80 entropy pillars/pends, 12 aether pillars/pends, 10 darkness pillars/pends, 8 gravity pillars/pends, 12 earth pillars/pends

[Sir Valimont]

If the general can use upped cards, are shards allowed?

[Amilir]

Nope.  The rules cover that.

[10 men]

Ok, I propose we use the following vault:

81   Amethyst pillar
59   Entropy Pendulum
24   Purple Dragon
24   Nova
24   Lycantrope
24   Graboid
24   Discord
24   Chaos Seed
24   Abomination
15   Maxwell's Demon
15   Antimatter
12   Poison
11   Lightning
11   Dissipation Shield
10   Quantum Pillar
8   Deflagration
6   Devourer
5   Fog Shield
4   Vampire Dagger
4   Steal
4   Forest Spirit
4   Dusk Mantle
4   Basilisk Blood
3   Purple Nymph
3   Purify
3   Holy Light
3   Butterfly Effect
2   Quintessence
2   Gravity Pull
2   Freeze
2   Dimensional Shield
1   Reverse Time
1   Earthquake

Total: 443 (I already included 12 cards from propaganda)

Explanation: With this vault we can build the following decks (11 decks in total):

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They take up the following cards:

51   Amethyst Pillar
39   Entropy Pendulum
24   Purple Dragon
24   Nova
24   Discord
22   Lycantrope
19   Chaos Seed
17   Abomination
12   Graboid
12   Poison
10   Quantum Pillar
10   Lightning
6   Dissipation Shield
6   Deflagration
6   Devourer
5   Maxwell's Demon
5   Antimatter
5   Fog Shield
4   Basilisk Blood
4   Forest Spirit
4   Dusk Mantle
4   Steal
4   Vampire Dagger
2   Purple Nymph
2   Quintessence
2   Gravity Pull
2   Freeze
2   Dimensional Shield
1   Earthquake
1   Butterfly Effect
1   Reverse Time

The other cards got chosen as "Silver Bullets" against specific Elements (Purify, Holy Light) and to replace losses we take in the first rounds. They are

3   Holy Light
3   Purify
2   Lycantrope
5   Chaos Seed
7   Abomination
30   Amethyst Pillar
20   Entropy Pendulum
10   Antimatter
10   Maxwell's Demon
5   Dissipation Shield
2   Butterfly Effect
1   Purple Nymph
12   Graboid
2   Deflagration
1   Lightning

The thinking here is that if we take a loss in the first rounds, we can just discard a bunch of pillars or cards we already have some replacements for in the vault. It also allows us to modify our decks a little, for example if we think Maxwell's Demons will be good in a matchup, we can just take them.
Tell me what you think about the decks and the vault in general or if I made any mistakes.

[Nyma]

8   Deflagration
3   Butterfly Effect
2   Quintessence

Total: 443 (I already included 12 cards from propaganda)

2 Quints aren't nearly enough for our team, almost everyone is going to being using CC against us. Having a total of only 11 perm control cards would also be a problem.

edit: sorry I missed the 4 steals on my first read over.

[Sir Valimont]

There are a few cards that in general are very powerful that we should consider on an individual basis. Is there a way for us to use them in a deck? Is there a situation where we might want them? Is there a deck that we might want to add flexibility to by adding them?

Cards like Wings or Enchant Artifact are what I'm thinking of. Wings is extremely incompatible with most Entropy-based decks, yes, but it also is a card that can quite easily guarantee victory in certain circumstances. Same with Gravity Shield. There are also cards that are underrated specifically in PvP that are incredibly powerful if used right ... Trident comes to mind. It's another card that's perhaps very hard to use with Entropy but we should think about cards like that anyway.

It's very important to consider what decks we can build but I think we also need to make sure that the cards we have give us the flexibility to make any kind of deck on the fly. 

[Nyma]

So we have 10 hours left, has anyone tried to make 9 viable decks with our current vault? I think perhaps that should be our priority at this point.

[Amilir]

Finalized

[Kurohami]

So, I think I am supposed to update the vault now, correct? Is the salvaging and discarding finalized?