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Round 7 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17442.msg222182#msg222182
« on: December 11, 2010, 07:05:32 pm »
Round 7 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

Salvaging 6 x 6 Win -3  = 33 cards
  +1 Aether Pendulum
  +6 Air Pendulum
  +4 Azure Dragon
  +2 Shockwave
  +1 Owl's Eye
  +2 Earthquake
  +1 Lycanthrope
  +3 Burning Pillar
  +2 Deflagration
  +2 Phoenix
  +3 Emerald Pillar
  +5 Life Pendulum
  +1 Forest Scorpion

Discarding 30 X 3 Loss = 90 cards
-14 Amethyst Pillar
-15 Entropy Pendulum
-6 Nova
-1 Maxwell's Demon
-6 Abomination
-2 Chaos Seed
-2 Antimatter
-4 Pandemonium
-7 Discord
-6 Poison
-5 Bone Wall
-3 Arsenic
-6 Graboid
-2 Earthquake
-1 Basilisk Blood
-2 Deflagration
-1 Fog Shield
-2 Flying Weapon
-1 Lightning
-4 Reverse Time

Penalties 0 x 6 = 0 cards
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Converting 12 cards
1 x Dimensional Shield => 1 Amethyst Pillar
3 x Quintessence => 3 x Entropy Pendulum
1 x Dissipation Shield => 1 x Entropy Pendulum
2 x Enchant Artifact => 2 x Entropy Pendulum
5 x Butterfly Effect => 5 x Entropy Pendulum

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Re: Round 7 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17442.msg223336#msg223336
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2010, 01:09:11 am »
Salvage

10men- Salvage 6
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591 591 591 593 593 593 593 593 593 595 595 595 5of 5of 5og 5ol 5oo 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu
Amilir - Salvage 6
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5bs 5c6 5c6 5c7 5c7 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5lk 5lk 5lk 5oj 5oj 5oj 5oj 5oj 5oj 5ol 7n8 7n8 7n8
SnoWeb - Salvage 6
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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 5f6 5ie 5oc 5oc 5of 5og 5og 5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5ut 61t 61t 61v 63a 7dm 80g 80g

Vagman13 - Salvage 6
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55s 55s 5oc 5oc 5oc 5of 5oi 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ol 5oo 5oo 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 745 745 745 745 745 745
XKelevra - Salvage 3
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55k 55k 55k 55k 55n 55n 576 576 576 576 576 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c8 5c8 5c8 5c8 746 747 747 747 7ac 7ac
Zeru - Salvage 6
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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 52q 590 590 590 590 590 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f3 5f6 5f6 5fb 5fb 5fb 5fb 5fb 5fb 5og
 Discard

Kurohami - Discard 30
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4vi 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52q 52r 52r 52r 52r 52r
Nyma - Discard 30
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4vc 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 50u 50u 50u 50u 590 590 590 590 590 590 593 593 595 5f6 5f6 5og 5oi 5oi 61q
SirValimont - Discard 30
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vd 4vd 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4vi 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk

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Re: Round 7 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17442.msg223380#msg223380
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2010, 01:58:59 am »
SALVAGE / DISCARD SUGGESTIONS:

We continue to be in a dominant position, but as is natural our supply of Entropy cards is starting to wear thin. We should salvage accordingly, taking all Entropy cards we can, and we should also only convert from non-Entropy cards to pillars.


Discard:

Lava Golem  2-1  Kurohami
 >> DISCARD ALL
-11 Entropy Pendulum, -1 Chaos Seed, -4 Pandemonium, -6 Poison, -3 Arsenic, -5 Bone Wall

killsdazombies  2-1  Nyma
 >> DISCARD ALL
-1 Amethyst Pillar, -4 Entropy Pendulum, -6 Nova, -4 Discord, -6 Graboid, -2 Earthquake, -1 Basilisk Blood, -2 Deflagration, -1 Fog Shield, -2 Flying Weapon, -1 Lightning

Malduk  2-0  Sir Valimont
 >> SAVE 3
-13 Amethyst Pillar, -2 Maxwell's Demon, -6 Abomination, -1 Chaos Seed, -3 Discord, -2 Antimatter, -6 Reverse Time


Discard Subtotals (90 cards):

-14 Amethyst Pillar
-15 Entropy Pendulum
-6 Nova
-2 Maxwell's Demon
-6 Abomination
-2 Chaos Seed
-2 Antimatter
-4 Pandemonium
-7 Discord
-6 Poison
-5 Bone Wall
-3 Arsenic
-6 Graboid
-2 Earthquake
-1 Basilisk Blood
-2 Deflagration
-1 Fog Shield
-2 Flying Weapon
-1 Lightning
-6 Reverse Time  ... save 3 =   -3 Reverse Time

Reverse Time is necessary for a lot of our counter decks, so we should save enough to keep one such deck.


Salvage:

Zeru  2-0  Hyroen
+6 Nova
This is a no-brainer. We need quanta, and we need Entropy cards. If we could salvage 100 Novas, we probably would want to.

Amilir  2-0  Gl1tch
+1 Emerald Pillar +5 Life Pendulum
These can be used to power a Life duo with Scorpions.

xKelevra  2-0  girlsgeneration
+3 Forest Scorpion
Combined with the above, we can create a Life duo that takes advantage of some underused cards in our vault and which allows us less pressure on Entropy quanta. Scorpions are a nice addition for Adrenaline.

vagman13  2-0  Pervepic
+5 Air Pendulum, +1 Owl's Eye
Creating one or two Air duos is going to be an important thing for us to do next round. The third Owl's Eye makes most Air duos a lot more powerful.

10 men  2-0  QuantumT
+4 Earthquake, +2 Air Pendulum
We are desperately low on Earthquake, which is a super-important card for us to complement the denial of Discord. The Air Pendulums also help our duos.

SnoWeb  2-1  ji412jo
+2 Deflagration, +1 Air Pendulum, +2 Shockwave, +1 Aether Pendulum
A few loose cards, and we take the Shockwaves because we desperately need some creature control ... we continue to lose Pandemonium and Chaos Seed.


Salvage Subtotals (33 cards):

+6 Nova
+1 Emerald Pillar
+5 Life Pendulum
+3 Forest Scorpion
+8 Air Pendulum
+2 Shockwave
+1 Owl's Eye
+1 Aether Pendulum
+4 Earthquake
+2 Deflagration


Conversion:

-12 TBD

+12 TBD


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Re: Round 7 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17442.msg226033#msg226033
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2010, 06:51:56 pm »
I will post my own version of the salvage and build some decks upon it. I need to confirm if our strategy is doable.

Discard:
We save 3 reverse times. Those cards are way to important now.

Salvage
Zeru vs Hyroen
A lot of nice cards but we are in need of quanta. At this point I can see only extremes. Either 6 novas or 0 novas.
+5 graboids +1 lycan
Kel vs GG
We need creatures.
+3 scorpions.
Vagman
I'd love to salvage a titan from here, but we have an opportunity to build a strong air duo. Let's start here.
+5 air pendulum +1 owl's eye
Snoweb
Very interesting deck to salvage. A lot of useful cards.
+1 air pendulum +2 deflagration +2 fog shield +1 owl's eye
Amilir
We also have a chance to build a life duo.
+5 life pendulum +1 adrenaline
10men
+4 quake +2 bassilisk blood


Ok. I will start posting decks in the Deck thread soon.

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Re: Round 7 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17442.msg226519#msg226519
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2010, 12:40:22 pm »
Zeru / Nyma: Final salvage and conversion:


Salvage:

  +1 Aether Pendulum
  +6 Air Pendulum
  +4 Azure Dragon
  +2 Shockwave
  +1 Owl's Eye
  +2 Earthquake
  +1 Lycanthrope
  +3 Burning Pillar
  +2 Deflagration
  +2 Phoenix
  +3 Emerald Pillar
  +5 Life Pendulum
  +1 Forest Scorpion


Conversion:

  -1 Dimensional Shield
  -3 Quintessence
  -1 Drain Life
  -2 Enchant Artifact
  -5 Butterfly Effect

  +11 Amethyst Pillar
  +1 Entropy Pendulum


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Re: Round 7 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17442.msg226678#msg226678
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2010, 06:23:10 pm »
Thread updated.

 

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