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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15887.msg208652#msg208652
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2010, 09:28:47 pm »
Some proposed changes after discussion with Nyma:

From my battle vs. Air last round:

-1 Wind Pillar salvage, +1 Lightning salvage


Conversion:

+1 Butterfly Effect
+1 Enchant Artifact
-2 Wind Pillar

(so we are left with no Wind Pillars in Vault but +1 BE and +1 EA)

EDIT:

meh. I'd rather remove Lightning and keep a Gargoyle ... we need to come to a consensus on vagman's deck ...



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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15887.msg209075#msg209075
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2010, 07:45:47 am »
Discard edit:
+1 Discord, -1 Abomination (discard 1 more Discord and 1 less Abomination).
Some proposed changes after discussion with Nyma:
-1 Wind Pillar salvage, +1 Lightning salvage

Conversion:

+1 Butterfly Effect
+1 Enchant Artifact
-2 Wind Pillar

(so we are left with no Wind Pillars in Vault but +1 BE and +1 EA)
I did these changes. Please guys give your opinion in this thread if you want me to modify anything. Specially if we needs the cards for some decks ...

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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15887.msg209255#msg209255
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2010, 03:42:42 pm »
SALVAGE CHANGES v2:

New proposed changes:

Zeru 2-0 EvaRia
+2 novas + 2 deflags +1 vamp + 1 flyer.
+4 Nova, +1 Vampire Stiletto, +1 Mind Flayer
No change.

Kurohami 2-0 plastiqe
+5 bolts +1 vamp
+1 Lightning, +1 Vampire Stiletto, +4 Darkness Pendulum
+4 Black Dragon, +1 Vampire Stiletto, +1 Darkness Pendulum
10men designed a very nice deck with Black Dragons, and this salvage empowers that deck. The only change to our Vault is a reduction from 6 Darkness Pendulums to 4 ... which is not the end of the world. The nice thing about Black Dragons is it takes a lot of pressure off of our Entropy creature supply, which is getting thin and which is a major weakness of our Vault. For once we can use Devourers effectively with strong creatures using this salvage.

SnoWeb 2-0 Theonlyrealbeef
+2 steal + 4 poison
+2 Steal, +1 Voodoo Doll, +1 Bone Wall, +2 Darkness Pendulum
+1 Steal, +1 Voodoo Doll, +1 Bone Wall, +3 Darkness Pendulum
The loss of 1 Steal is not a big deal -- we have a lot of them, enough for two full Darkness decks. The extra Pendulum is worth it.

xKelevra 2-0 RavingRabbid (sub for 5pla5h)
+3 shocks +3 wings
+3 Shockwave, +3 Wings
No change.

Nyma 2-1 Jumbalumba
+3 deflags +2 otyugh +1 pull
+3 Deflagration, +2 Otyugh, +1 Gravity Pull
No change.

vagman13(subbing for sirValimont) 2-0 glowingice
+3 dimensional shields
+3 Wind Pillar
+1 Lightning, +2 Dimensional Shield
We are converting some of these most likely but should take cards that are more useful in case we keep a few. We will probably keep the Lightning.


Affected card stocks:

  Lightning x9
  Nova x26
  Vampire Stiletto x2
  Mind Flayer x1
  Black Dragon x4
  Darkness Pendulum x4
  Shockwave x3
  Wings x8 (currently -2 conversion)
  Deflagration x6
  Otyugh x2
  Gravity Pull x7
  Dimensional Shield x9

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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15887.msg209277#msg209277
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2010, 04:23:01 pm »
I did the changes and also replaced the wind pillars by Dim shield in the conversion but it seems weird.
Please check the first post and tell Zeru to modify it if there is any mistake. I think I will pass only very shortly on the forum over the week-end (Friday included). My duel is planed on Monday morning.

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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15887.msg209534#msg209534
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2010, 01:21:59 am »
Typo: It's 5 pillars and 7 Pendulums on the conversion.

 

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