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Round 1 random strategy topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14389.msg182195#msg182195
« on: October 22, 2010, 10:00:13 pm »
Of course we don't know anything about the vaults of the other teams yet, but we can still try to guess some of the opponents decks.

- Air (kurohami-Pervepic, vagman13-Dogg): The best air cards are Unstable Gas, Fog Shield and Owls Eye. Also they can use Immolates on Dragonflies anticipating our Discords. Their best duo would therefore be Air/Fire. I suggest we use against them an Entropy Darkness Duo with a bunch of Steals and no Discords.

- Light (Zeru-Salamence_747): We probably shouldn't use Poison against possible Miracles.

- Earth (SnoWeb-Korugar, xKelevra-$$$man): Really hard to predict, they could use pretty much anything from hardcore Graboid rush over flying Discords to Stone Skin-Miracle Stall. We should probably first decide on our other decks.

- Death (Amilir-Corrum): This is where our Holy Lights and Purifies get to shine... oh we don't have either?  :-X Anyway, best use a  deck with discord, they didn't use a rainbow deck in the last war under the same master (though they could theoretically immolate viruses)

- Time (10 men-Xinef): I want a deck with discord but no flying weapons (bad against rewinds).

- Life (Sir Valimont-killzdazombies, Nyma-willing3): Crush them with discords I'd say.
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Re: Round 1 random strategy topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14389.msg182249#msg182249
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2010, 10:49:53 pm »
- Air (kurohami-Pervepic, vagman13-Dogg): The best air cards are Unstable Gas, Fog Shield and Owls Eye. Also they can use Immolates on Dragonflies anticipating our Discords. Their best duo would therefore be Air/Fire. I suggest we use against them an Entropy Darkness Duo with a bunch of Steals and no Discords.
That's what i am expecting also so I think i should pick a deck like this http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/?mark=4st&deck=z64vcz64vh4vlz34vnz24voz450uz65umz35up
31 cards is intentional in case of a deckout.

My only worries is that it's pretty low on damage output and possible shockwaves can kill those few lycans that i will put out.Any thoughts?

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Re: Round 1 random strategy topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14389.msg182447#msg182447
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2010, 03:25:35 am »
- Air (kurohami-Pervepic, vagman13-Dogg): The best air cards are Unstable Gas, Fog Shield and Owls Eye. Also they can use Immolates on Dragonflies anticipating our Discords. Their best duo would therefore be Air/Fire. I suggest we use against them an Entropy Darkness Duo with a bunch of Steals and no Discords.
That's what i am expecting also so I think i should pick a deck like this http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/?mark=4st&deck=z64vcz64vh4vlz34vnz24voz450uz65umz35up
31 cards is intentional in case of a deckout.

My only worries is that it's pretty low on damage output and possible shockwaves can kill those few lycans that i will put out.Any thoughts?
I would switch a Purple Dragon or two in for Lycans and while playing I would be conservative with Steals. A Wings deck will otherwise beat you easily.

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Re: Round 1 random strategy topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14389.msg182496#msg182496
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2010, 05:21:57 am »
Abominations + discords + black holes + gravity pull for me.

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Re: Round 1 random strategy topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14389.msg182698#msg182698
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2010, 01:56:07 pm »
Ok after some of the changes suggested I 've modified the deck to be like this :

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Voodoo dolls as BE targets,so they are basically immortal.During practise my butterfly pests would die to easily to shockwaves and owl's eyes.
Ditched 2 wolfies for 2 drags and added one more pillar to cover the increased cost.

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Re: Round 1 random strategy topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14389.msg182714#msg182714
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2010, 02:23:21 pm »
I'd like to play something like this:
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vd 4vd 4vd 4vd 4vd 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4vg 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vl 4vl 4vl 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50uI think I'd have a good chance with this, despite Xinef being a master. Their best plan is probably to go for Deja-Vu+Immolation, so I took a bunch of Chaos Seeds which are good against that deck.
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Re: Round 1 random strategy topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14389.msg182767#msg182767
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2010, 03:33:19 pm »
I would like to request this deck:
(http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/?mark=4sm&deck=z34viz64vjz44vlz450uz6590z35935ogz35oi)

I've considered changing out the chaos seeds for other things mostly 2 pends and another EQ, but so far I haven't needed more than 2 EQs in any practice match I've tried.

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Re: Round 1 random strategy topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14389.msg182933#msg182933
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2010, 06:25:29 pm »
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Modded scrambled shriekers for my match with :earth $$$man

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Re: Round 1 random strategy topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14389.msg183794#msg183794
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2010, 08:18:27 pm »
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Re: Round 1 random strategy topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14389.msg183817#msg183817
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2010, 08:40:59 pm »
-xkelevra: Did you consider the possibility of earth using a deck like this: (deck taken from last war)
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58o 58o 58o 58o 58u 58u 58u 58u 58u 58u 590 590 590 595 595 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fb 5fb 5fbHaven't tested it, but it seems like you'd lose really hard against it. I'd remove some of the EQs and one or both Protect artifact (you don't need that many pillars anyway) and take some Chaos Seeds. If those end up being already taken you could also use Pandemoniums.

-Amilir: I think I'd prefer upped pillars instead of discords. Higher probability of turn 2 discord = awesome.
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Re: Round 1 random strategy topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14389.msg184276#msg184276
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2010, 07:46:48 am »
-xkelevra: Did you consider the possibility of earth using a deck like this: (deck taken from last war)
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I'm up against  :earth Korugar. I chose a duo with darkness:
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vf 4vf 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vi 4vi 4vn 4vn 4vn 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 5uo 5uo 5up 5up 5ur 5urwith 2 kind of CC: Seeds against Shriekers and Antimatter against dragons. I'm just afraid that early earthquakes prevent me to play the antimatters/dragons. He could also play an armored oty deck which would be a great pb. What do you think? I may exchange an antimatter for a sup seed? or a pendulum for a sup pillar? What do you think?
I'm not really sure How the deck I chose would stand against this  :earth / :fire duo either. Some advices?

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Re: Round 1 random strategy topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14389.msg184401#msg184401
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2010, 01:14:35 pm »
SnoWeb, we don't have Stilettos in our vault. Also, you cannot make a deck with Lycantrophes anymore, because right now Kurohami has six, vagman13 has four and Amilir has 6 which adds up to 16 - already one more than we have in our vault.
Concerning your deck I actually don't think you should be super-afraid of EQs, because that card is really bad against Nova-based decks. With the current decks we still have cards left for two nice mono-Entropy decks for you and Sir Valimont.
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