Brainstorming - possible decks for entropy

[10 men]

Ok, so I think the best way to build our vault is to first look at possible decks we might want to play and then make our vault according to them. Feel free to post your ideas here. I'll start with two possible decks.

Mono Entropy:

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Strengths: Fast and disruptive. Good chance at turn two discord.
Weaknesses: Not as effective against rainbows, don't know how good it is against stalls.
possible changes: I think the only cards that are 100% needed are discords and dragons. Maxwells and Purple Nymph can be used if we don't expect a lot of CC, more Antimatter if we expect more heavy hitters, Chaos Seeds against small Growth creatures. Against stalls, deck size could be increased.

Scrambled Shriekers:

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Strenghts: Lots of people would't be ashamed to play this deck at a no-restrictions pvp tournament, so...
Weaknesses: Rainbows, maybe?
possible changes: Because of its rainbow nature, it can accomodate lots of one- or two-offs for specific opponents.

Please post your ideas, everyone.

[vagman13]

Poison Deck Ideas (Work in progress)

Deck 1: ( propably switch pends with pillars,add one more arsenic)

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Deck 2 : (needs more refining)

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[SnoWeb]

Two denial decks:

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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vo 4vo 50u 50u 50u 50u 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uu 5uu 5uu- rely on the great synergie  / : Lycanthrope ; devourer/BE ; Antimatter/liquid Shadow
- the passiv devourer ability is kept when BEed
- one might want to exchange 1-2 pillar(s) for 1-2 pendulum(S) and a LS/antimatter for 1-2 drain life(s) - combined with devourer it gives a great final blow.

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- chaos seed is for the early creatures
- perhaps exchange an abomination for a golem
- could eventually be mixed with 10men scrambled shriekers

[xKelevra]

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My discord black hole denial deck. Will post more decks after I get home~

[Kurohami]

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[SnoWeb]

Another Entopy/Life Duo but this time taking advantage of the 3 attack creatures:

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- adrenaline on scorpion is also good if no other alternative
- CC is done with maxwell and elfe
- PC is done with BE on scorpions
- discord and 1-2heals can be replaced by 1-3novas or more discord depending on your style.
- this deck is to be avoided if a lot of CC is expected (fire, time)

[10 men]

Ok, first some comments on the decks you posted:
(Please note that I mean no personal offense to anyone whose decks I criticise)

- vagman: At first, i didn't understand why you would play a rush with poisons, but I'm slowly getting behind the idea. Here's my take on it:

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- SnoWeb, first deck: Entropy/Darkness is a good combination, but I'm not convinced by your numbers. Liquid Shadow/Antimatter is cute, but not effective against every deck. Liquid Shadow also makes an AM'd creature easier to get rid of.
Then you're not playing any weapons or shields, which just can't be right, as both darkness and entropy have one of the best weapons in the game and Darkness also has an awesome Shield. If I were to make a deck with Devourers, it would probably look like this:

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This Entropy/Darkness duo takes a different approach:

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- SnoWeb second deck: No. Seriously, you can't play Antlion in a war. It's a 2/3 for 2 . You have to play good cards.

- xKelevra: Black Hole is a trap. There is exactly one card that it's reasonable against and that is Supernova. We won't play against Supernova in the war. It's good against Top-50 rainbow because those decks have Supernova, and it's good in Dark Matter's deck because that guy is a false god and can thus churn them out like a machine with his double draw. When I have a Discord I would much rather add more pressure to the board than suck up a few quanta.

- Kurohami: yuck, also has all these bad cards, Horned Frog, Rustler, 2/2 Parasites with Gravity Pull... My main problem with mutation is that even if you get it to work, which always involves 2 cards, you usually get a 5/5, which is not enough for a consistent win.

- SnoWeb, third deck: The question is, how much CC do we expect? Honestly, I would be surprised if more than 10% of the decks had none, but those are unfortunately the only decks I would want to play this deck against. Adrenaline is just this big invitation that says "Yes, please do two-for-one me". So, don't like deck this either, sorry.


Two more decks of my own:

Entropy-Aether:

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Some decks just fold to quinted Nymphs, and otherwise the deck is solid as well. Lots of CC and a bunch of heavy hitters. Discord buys time for the deck to set up.

Rainbow!:

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Please give me your feedback on those decks.

[SnoWeb]

- SnoWeb second deck: No. Seriously, you can't play Antlion in a war. It's a 2/3 for 2 . You have to play good cards.

Haha! I was a bit expecting this kind of answer! My second deck is clearly not a very good one. I was just playing around with BE, looking for creature that can support it. I thought brainstorming could be also used to submit new Ideas. I only put decks that are, let say, unusual ...

Liquid Shadow/Antimatter is cute, but not effective against every deck. Liquid Shadow also makes an AM'd creature easier to get rid of.

True. But liquid shadow can also be used to get rid of otyugh/chrysaora/squid ect...

Then you're not playing any weapons or shields, which just can't be right, as both darkness and entropy have one of the best weapons in the game and Darkness also has an awesome Shield.

Yeah but the problem of these cards is that it is written "steal or destroy me" on it! A stolen discord/dusk is so much of a pain!

Adrenaline is just this big invitation that says "Yes, please do two-for-one me".

You can also say that about flying weapon ... Talking about that why did you put b-blood in your flying discord deck and not earthquake instead?
After a bit of testing. I found the adren-elfes deck not that bad but clearly not good enough to go for war.

Black Hole is a trap.

I agree.

[10 men]

Yeah but the problem of these cards is that it is written "steal or destroy me" on it! A stolen discord/dusk is so much of a pain!

I'm honestly not that concerned about a discord getting stolen. Steal costs 4 , by the time scrambling leaves the opponent with that many quanta, we should already be in a comfortable position. If Dusk Shield gets stolen, then I guess we just have to steal it back... or BE it, Entropy/Darkness has enough PC.

You can also say that about flying weapon ...

That's true, and it's also the reason I don't like Flying Weapon in most decks... but I'm willing to make an exception for flying discords, because they in a way protect themselves by messing up the opponent's quanta.

Talking about that why did you put b-blood in your flying discord deck and not earthquake instead?

Honestly I just took the deck team Earth used in the last war and modified it to meet the half-Entropy-cards requirement.
But some CC can't be wrong, I guess EQs could be used too though.

[SnoWeb]

I just tried your mono-entropy today in PvP1. It's very good. just do not play discord to early against darkness. But otherwise a killer deck.
IMO, the entropy-aether is good but less than the first one! Entropy rules!

[xKelevra]

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My take on a deck that was used in the previous war.

[10 men]

- xKelevra: Don't know if you want that many Quints, it's a fine card but does nothing on its own... If you're playing against a CC-heavy opponent, a single quinted dragon will probably be enough too. Why only one discord? Even in a slow deck I'm fine with packing two weapons if the weapon is as strong as discord. Taking AMs instead of Shields is an option, but I think if we don't know what we're up against Shield is better, gives free wins against many decks.

Here's another interesting rainbow - Entropy/Darkness Rainbow

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A different take on the Entropy-Earth Rainbow:

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