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Re: Schrödinger's Cat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16601.msg218322#msg218322
« Reply #132 on: December 06, 2010, 10:37:14 pm »
I also think its a weak card.  :entropy:death ? You will also need  :aether for minimum benefit, because without Fractal you have nothing to use your  :death quanta, and without Quint your cat wont survive a turn. Not a realiable strategy, however. By the way, I would like un-upped version being 1/2, and upped being 1/4. In fact, if it has 0 attack, even better.
Wouldn't you rather 100 cards like this (provides a couple new strategies, mixes up the used decks a little more) than another card like Fractal?
Its good enough to get some use. Even if it's just for BE. Therefore it's good enough for me.
Total agreement.

The only part that annoys me is some people will look solely at the card count and think Aether is getting the shaft, or something.

Re: Schrödinger's Cat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16601.msg218338#msg218338
« Reply #133 on: December 06, 2010, 10:52:04 pm »
well, light has the same amount of common cards as aether
tho light does have 3 rare cards in comparison to aether's 2

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Re: Schrödinger's Cat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16601.msg218497#msg218497
« Reply #134 on: December 07, 2010, 12:52:24 am »
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6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ua 6ua 6ua 6ua 6ua 6ua 711 711 711 711 711 711 714 714 714 714 714 714 71f 71f 71f 71f 71f 71f
This deck seems to work pretty well. I beat a level 3 with 80 HP left.

EDIT: Whoops, ah ... that's 6 Cats and 6 Soul Catchers.

More towers are probably needed.
in my opinion, and in my testing, that deck won't work.
definitely not enough entropy quanta to power the cats.
i've been tinkering a bit and i came up with this one, although i'm not too convinced about it yet.
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6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ua 6ua 6ua 6ua 6ua 6ua 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 711 711 714 714 714 714 714 714 71b 71b 71b 71f 71f 71fit's 6 cats and 3 soul catchers

Re: Schrödinger's Cat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16601.msg218537#msg218537
« Reply #135 on: December 07, 2010, 01:36:26 am »
this card might need a buff, just lower the cost to just one quanta

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Re: Schrödinger's Cat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16601.msg218645#msg218645
« Reply #136 on: December 07, 2010, 04:25:55 am »
I also think its a weak card.  :entropy:death ? You will also need  :aether for minimum benefit, because without Fractal you have nothing to use your  :death quanta, and without Quint your cat wont survive a turn. Not a realiable strategy, however. By the way, I would like un-upped version being 1/2, and upped being 1/4. In fact, if it has 0 attack, even better.
Wouldn't you rather 100 cards like this (provides a couple new strategies, mixes up the used decks a little more) than another card like Fractal?
Its good enough to get some use. Even if it's just for BE. Therefore it's good enough for me.
I surely agree. When the game has just a few cards, like Elements, weak cards are better than none. Its weak, but I didnt say it shouldnt be put alive. Of course, could have some balance to be more useful, maybe even increase defense, like said. Hope Zanz have other 98 weak cards to add next upgrade ;)

That said, and considering what I have read about Schrödinger... well, of course it fits the Entropy theme, BUT, I wouldnt like having a real person name in a card. Its like "Isaac Newton's Cat", with the difference Schrödinger is much less famous. Its just my opinion, but I think a common name like Spectral Cat or something would fit it better. By the way, whats the origin of Maxwell's Demon card? Looks like the single one that have already a name of a real person. Any thoughts?

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Re: Schrödinger's Cat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16601.msg218657#msg218657
« Reply #137 on: December 07, 2010, 04:47:56 am »
That said, and considering what I have read about Schrödinger... well, of course it fits the Entropy theme, BUT, I wouldnt like having a real person name in a card. Its like "Isaac Newton's Cat", with the difference Schrödinger is much less famous. Its just my opinion, but I think a common name like Spectral Cat or something would fit it better. By the way, whats the origin of Maxwell's Demon card? Looks like the single one that have already a name of a real person. Any thoughts?
James Clerk Maxwell was a Scottish physicist who showed the relationship between electricity and magnetism for the first time. He is one of the most significant physicists in history. As far as fantasy gaming is concerned, his name has actually been used before, predating Elements, as a representative of a sort of "random" energy that could loosely be associated with his body of work. He showed that electricity and light are basically the same thing in different forms ... so for fantasy genres the element of "creation" or "atomic matter" or even basic "physics" is generally his arena. Some of his work does indeed deal with energy paradoxes, which I think is the inspiration for the Maxwell's Demon's "paradox" skill.

Probably the most known early usage of his name in fantasy gaming comes from Tales of Phantasia, the Super Famicom / Super Nintendo game originally released in Japan in 1995. If I had to guess I would say Zanz was influenced by that game (which also had a major after-effect type following in the US when 32-bit gaming emulators were the craze).

It follows logically for me that Schrödinger's name is now invoked in part because of the precedent from Maxwell's Demon. I have not seen any adoption of Schrödinger or his proverbial cat in fantasy or gaming genres before now. And that's a good thing -- it's very innovative!

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Re: Schrödinger's Cat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16601.msg218922#msg218922
« Reply #138 on: December 07, 2010, 05:05:43 pm »
I think that perhaps making the ability reusible multiple times in a turn, but raising the cost, would make this card more viable. Perhaps three or four :entropy per use with unlimited uses would make it a better pick for some decks over an Oty.
Think about this + shard of readiness. MAAAAAAAADNEEEEEEEES

Re: Schrödinger's Cat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16601.msg218928#msg218928
« Reply #139 on: December 07, 2010, 05:15:33 pm »
I think that perhaps making the ability reusible multiple times in a turn, but raising the cost, would make this card more viable. Perhaps three or four :entropy per use with unlimited uses would make it a better pick for some decks over an Oty.
Think about this + shard of readiness. MAAAAAAAADNEEEEEEEES
True, never thought of that, since I don't own any SoR. =/

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Re: Schrödinger's Cat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16601.msg218936#msg218936
« Reply #140 on: December 07, 2010, 05:26:10 pm »
I think that perhaps making the ability reusible multiple times in a turn, but raising the cost, would make this card more viable. Perhaps three or four :entropy per use with unlimited uses would make it a better pick for some decks over an Oty.
Think about this + shard of readiness. MAAAAAAAADNEEEEEEEES
True, never thought of that, since I don't own any SoR. =/
*points at rustler*
Easy fix for that.

Re: Schrödinger's Cat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16601.msg218946#msg218946
« Reply #141 on: December 07, 2010, 05:39:06 pm »
I think that perhaps making the ability reusible multiple times in a turn, but raising the cost, would make this card more viable. Perhaps three or four :entropy per use with unlimited uses would make it a better pick for some decks over an Oty.
Think about this + shard of readiness. MAAAAAAAADNEEEEEEEES
True, never thought of that, since I don't own any SoR. =/
*points at rustler*
Easy fix for that.
Does Rustler have a special effect when effected by SoR? Hmm...I really haven't been paying attention much.

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Re: Schrödinger's Cat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16601.msg218951#msg218951
« Reply #142 on: December 07, 2010, 05:45:28 pm »
I think that perhaps making the ability reusible multiple times in a turn, but raising the cost, would make this card more viable. Perhaps three or four :entropy per use with unlimited uses would make it a better pick for some decks over an Oty.
Think about this + shard of readiness. MAAAAAAAADNEEEEEEEES
True, never thought of that, since I don't own any SoR. =/
*points at rustler*
Easy fix for that.
Does Rustler have a special effect when effected by SoR? Hmm...I really haven't been paying attention much.
It's ability stops being reusable to prevent unlimited quanta when you use a SoR on it.

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Re: Schrödinger's Cat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16601.msg219576#msg219576
« Reply #143 on: December 08, 2010, 04:58:59 pm »
Sure, use of Schrödinger's name is something new. I didnt even know this guy, lol. I have heard about Maxwell before, but its a much more common name, so I didnt associate the card to the scientist. In fact, Albert's something would mean nothing to most people, but Einstein's something would. At same line, how about Erwin's Cat (Erwin is first Schrödinger's name)? It would still have a connection to the scientist, just wouldnt be so obvious thats related to a real life person. Just my opinion, wouldnt like having real people names on cards.

 

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