*Author

Offline storyteller

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 930
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 16
  • storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.
  • a very old soul
Re: Butterfly Effect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4130.msg42710#msg42710
« Reply #60 on: March 23, 2010, 05:51:12 am »
that is not a good enough reason to nerf such a nice card. I want my dragon to Destroy stuff. Or my Saphire Charger, so I can quint it and know it will be pretty much safe. Maybe I want to put it on my frog...

It is a creative limitation, but I just think this Ability Granting card should be limited so completely to little creatures. If you want to make micro abominations better, just give them  :entropy :entropy :entropy :entropy Destroy
makes sense as they are micro an can crawl in stuff, destroy as an Ability Grant should be more versatile.

PhantomFox

  • Guest
Re: Butterfly effect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4130.msg43291#msg43291
« Reply #61 on: March 24, 2010, 05:37:12 pm »
this should be able to target any creature , it shouldn't be restricted to small creatures. I know that fits with the premise of the name, but it doesn't really improve gameplay, it just hampers a good card unnecessarily.
Destroy is a VERY powerful ability, which is why it's only been seen reusable on mutations and pulverizer (which is getting its cost increased too).  Having destroy on a high defense creature would be neigh-uncounterable.  There is a REASON the attack restriction is in place.

Offline Essence

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4340
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 57
  • Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.
  • Voice of the Oracle -- Jezzie's Pimp -- Often Gone
  • Awards: 2nd Trials - Master of Water1st Trials - Master of WaterFG Deck-Designer - The OutcastsShard Madness! Competition WinnerEpic 3 Card Design Competition WinnerElder Recruiter
Re: Butterfly Effect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4130.msg43316#msg43316
« Reply #62 on: March 24, 2010, 07:19:41 pm »
Than the attack restriction = fail, because of Armagio.  Fortunately, the attack restriction doesn't exist for that reason -- it exists specifically to get players to use Micro Abomination, and that's all.
If something happens and you think it deserves my attention, feel free to PM me. Other than that, I'm probably here if you want to shoot the breeze.

Delreich

  • Guest
Re: Butterfly Effect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4130.msg43322#msg43322
« Reply #63 on: March 24, 2010, 07:35:36 pm »
Having destroy on a high defense creature would be neigh-uncounterable.  There is a REASON the attack restriction is in place.
Getting your attack and defence mixed up, eh?

The attack restriction means you can't use dragons both as killers and controllers. That would be a more logical reason.

Daneman

  • Guest
Re: Butterfly Effect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4130.msg43334#msg43334
« Reply #64 on: March 24, 2010, 08:10:44 pm »
nice =D
it's going to be very handy for skeletons :D

casthegamer

  • Guest
Re: Butterfly Effect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4130.msg43351#msg43351
« Reply #65 on: March 24, 2010, 09:07:58 pm »
nice =D
it's going to be very handy for skeletons :D
unless you're playing incarnate, and he drops that pesky eclipse.

xdawnbydeath

  • Guest
Re: Butterfly Effect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4130.msg43356#msg43356
« Reply #66 on: March 24, 2010, 09:17:23 pm »
Couldn't you have butterfly effect change the stats of the creature it is used on?  That would make it so people would still only use it on smaller creatures, b/c I for one would not turn my dragon into a 1/1 or 2/2 even if it had destroy. 

Offline yaladilae

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 951
  • Reputation Power: 12
  • yaladilae is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.yaladilae is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.
  • † RIP Butterfly Angel †
  • Awards: Undefeated 100-0 Competition Winner
Re: Butterfly Effect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4130.msg43390#msg43390
« Reply #67 on: March 24, 2010, 11:08:08 pm »
I love butterfly effect the way it is,not OP at all

And it isnt about micro ambnomiation

Someone raise armaigo, 5  :gravity and then 5(possibliy 4 upped)  :entropy to play both cards leaving 10 quntum used, then another 3 :entropy to destory anything....

If it was not atk limited, then as Del said, its way way OP

And to be honest, the card is very vulnerable to rewind, compare to if you add  :entropy :entropy :entropy :entropy destory on micro abnomination, rewind is useless against it

I know you can quint it, but that would just mean you need to have and draw another card in your deck

This card, because of its atk limit, also make an interesting strat for you. for your pure dragon rusher can have lower atk creatures to start off the game, who knows

for example light entrophy deck, with RoL only producing light so you can use blessing for your entrophy dragons, and later in game, if opponent plays something strong, go butterfly your ray of light ( and then destory it !

Or entrophy fire... with cremation, gravitational eater and entrophy dragon, extra gravy eater can be used for butterfly, especially creamation cannot make alot of gravy eater eat fire would be fun

Offline storyteller

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 930
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 16
  • storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.
  • a very old soul
Re: Butterfly Effect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4130.msg43582#msg43582
« Reply #68 on: March 25, 2010, 08:04:03 am »
Than the attack restriction = fail, because of Armagio.  Fortunately, the attack restriction doesn't exist for that reason -- it exists specifically to get players to use Micro Abomination, and that's all.
yeah, micro should just get something to help it, not a whole other card that is nerfed just to make it better. like, it just sucks. I cant play it on lycans after they are 6/6, or a regular abomination, a lot of other things. If they want they micro to have destroy, they should just give it to it. And make BE a non nerfed card.

Daneman

  • Guest
Re: Butterfly Effect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4130.msg43639#msg43639
« Reply #69 on: March 25, 2010, 02:33:02 pm »
nice =D
it's going to be very handy for skeletons :D
unless you're playing incarnate, and he drops that pesky eclipse.
Ow yeah... that would suck D:

Sengiratolom

  • Guest
Re: Butterfly Effect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4130.msg43649#msg43649
« Reply #70 on: March 25, 2010, 03:08:59 pm »
what happens if a creature has butterfly effect on it, and then gets blessed/afected by nightfall? does BE stay on, or is it removed?

Offline xdude

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3566
  • Reputation Power: 39
  • xdude is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.xdude is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.xdude is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.xdude is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.xdude is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.xdude is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.xdude is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.
  • Rage potting a light dragon only makes it stronger
  • Awards: 5th Trials - Master of Light2nd Trials - Master of Light1st Trials - Master of Light1st Place SS Competition #2
Re: Butterfly Effect https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4130.msg43650#msg43650
« Reply #71 on: March 25, 2010, 03:16:25 pm »
what happens if a creature has butterfly effect on it, and then gets blessed/afected by nightfall? does BE stay on, or is it removed?
It should stay, as the spell says it can only BE USED ON creatures with attack less than 3, not that it can't EXIST on them. So, in 1 word, the answer is yes.
Personal text by Cheesy
When I first started elements I was a noob. Now I'm a noob in only 11 parts of it. The unimportant ones.
Saying Elements cards are just pixels is like saying Dollars are just paper.

 

blarg: