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Amethyst Nymph (Plat) (Anti-SoSa) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33915.msg427778#msg427778
« on: November 19, 2011, 01:02:37 pm »
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Out of about a dozen matches in plat, this won about 8, so it has something of a 65% win rate.

Ironically, I haven't as of yet faced a SoSa deck, although the strategy is simple against it and unless it packs heavy CC it should work. (Which it shouldn't since SoSa has anti-synergy with CC.) Works like a charm. Pile on Chaos Powers onto a single Amethyst Dragon, wait for the comp to play its 2+ SoSa's and drain itself down in HP, and use the Purple Nymph to toggle your Dragon back to damage. If I had more Purple Nymphs I'd probably include a third, but for now Maxwell's demon's will do, especially as cheaper CC option to anti-matter.


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Chaos Power: Play as questionable clutch CC in combination with Maxwell's Demon. Play before Anti-mattering an opponent to get more healing. Play on a Nymph to get 5+ hp to avoid being eaten by oty, and/or to gain resistance to CC. Playable even under severe quanta restriction. Helps buff a single creature so against SoSa you can anti-matter everything all at once. Extreme quanta-damage efficiency.

Amethyst Dragon: Big chasis, draws in a good amount of CC.

Maxwell's Demon: For when waiting for the quanta for a Nymph isn't viable. Also, higher priority than Amethyst Dragon by Cpu.

Discord: Because making a x2 Entropy mark deck powering everything off Nova's wait 6+ turns to play its first SNova is priceless. Also because the SoSa's played function as proxy Black Holes letting your Discord rescramble their quanta in the middle-game.

Anti-Matter: Helps consistency, and sometimes you just need one. Helps keep the quanta balance, and sometimes there's lobo's or otys out that keep the nymphs off the dance floor.

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Re: Amethyst Nymph (Plat) (Anti-SoSa) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33915.msg427785#msg427785
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2011, 01:21:25 pm »
Very nice winrate for a mono!
I just have to find a way to get some purple nymphs to try it. :(

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Re: Amethyst Nymph (Plat) (Anti-SoSa) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33915.msg427796#msg427796
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2011, 02:02:30 pm »
To be honest, the win-rate is probably closer to 50% all things considered. The biggest issue with this deck is that it is very inconsistent. And I don't mean it outright sucks sometimes, but in general a hand with maxwell's demon and a nymph plays completely different from a hand with discord and dragon.

Also, updated the deck with -1 Amethyst Tower +1 Anti-Matter, since there were a couple matches I'd have had a shot or maybe even won if I had it. (And one match where I drew 1 Chaos Power, 1 Amethyst Dragon, and 12 Towers in my first few turns.)

And good news, finally fought a SoSa, and ground its face into the dirt. Works like a charm against it.

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Re: Amethyst Nymph (Plat) (Anti-SoSa) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33915.msg427797#msg427797
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2011, 02:06:29 pm »
I would just use some more antimatters instead of Chaos Powers.. I mean you do have those dragons already
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Re: Amethyst Nymph (Plat) (Anti-SoSa) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33915.msg427875#msg427875
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2011, 06:28:13 pm »
Chaos Powers are for a few reasons. One, this deck other than the CP's runs entirely in very high quanta cost cards, its quanta pool is already extremely strained so just swapping out some more for anti-matter cards would tug at it even further. Also, while Anti-matter is only useful in some cases and while it's effectiveness in the deck goes down a bit due to the nymphs already present. On the other hand Chaos Power serve a huge purpose, partly in versatility.

Chaos Power: Play as questionable clutch CC in combination with Maxwell's Demon. Play before Anti-mattering an opponent to get more healing. Play on a Nymph to get 5+ hp to avoid being eaten by oty, and/or to gain resistance to CC. Playable even under severe quanta restriction. Helps buff a single creature so against SoSa you can anti-matter everything all at once. Extreme quanta-damage efficiency.
Also, this deck crushes SoSa, faced two-three more, and its actually refreshing how laughably easy they are to beat.

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Re: Amethyst Nymph (Plat) (Anti-SoSa) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33915.msg428117#msg428117
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2011, 05:21:23 am »
Huh. I even have an :entropy nymph. It'd be good to find something to get rid off all those pesky SoSas in the arena.

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Re: Amethyst Nymph (Plat) (Anti-SoSa) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33915.msg428187#msg428187
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2011, 10:23:58 am »
Maybe good against sosa but most of the times it's combined with heavy poison, how is it gonna protect itselve from that?
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Re: Amethyst Nymph (Plat) (Anti-SoSa) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33915.msg428193#msg428193
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2011, 11:13:04 am »
Its results vary and it depends a lot on the types of decks in the arena. For example right now there's many rush speedbows in the meta which screws up its win rate, unlike yesterday. As for poison defense... depends on the type of SoSa. Usually though it works out except against full poison SoSa like chrys decks, essentially poison only damage 'and' poison rush.

Point A: Anti-mattering your dragon to keep up with their SoSa means that they're damaging themselves for no benefit, which means they lose 80+ hp with no way to heal. You can simply outrush them.

Point B: You have a nymph of Entropy, if they aren't playing a pure poison type then you anti-matter their creatures and have them heal you. And if they're playing a Stall SoSa like a neurotoxin, or a heavy light mark SoD SoSa combo deck... they still lose because they can't kill you fast enough.

Point C: Discord scrambles their quanta out of death, this not only stalls them for a few turns at the start, but it makes it so when they play their SoSa Discord's effectiveness shoots straight back to maximum. This slows down speed poison considerably.

So yes there is a subsection of SoSa that can sometimes beat this deck, but most decks with SoSa are at a heavy disadvantage. Also, bonewall is a huge problem for this deck, so a deck that has bonewalls instead of SoSa will typically counter this deck.

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Re: Amethyst Nymph (Plat) (Anti-SoSa) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33915.msg431884#msg431884
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2011, 03:01:01 pm »
oooo my 2 lil nymphos might come out to play...

I like the deck concept, would be interested to see 50 game win %, once i upgrade a couple of dragons which is all im missing i might drum some up for ya :)
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Re: Amethyst Nymph (Plat) (Anti-SoSa) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33915.msg432320#msg432320
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2011, 02:58:06 pm »
I don't think there are many/much (i don't know which one) players who don't have 2 nymphs
what is the best to replace?
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Re: Amethyst Nymph (Plat) (Anti-SoSa) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33915.msg432330#msg432330
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2011, 03:23:39 pm »
I don't think there are many/much (i don't know which one) players who don't have 2 nymphs
what is the best to replace?

you probably need at least one, and both is kinda needed for draw consistancy, but i imagine if you are gonna run it with 1 nymph replace the other with a normal AM.
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