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Re: I moved all the cards to the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4334.msg45455#msg45455
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2010, 10:18:07 am »
i intentinally meen all. all buyable trainer cards/weapons + malignant cell.
could do mark cards aswell but dont have great access to them.

Sounds great but are you sure you know what you are getting yourself into? :)
I love challenges ;D
Awesome job with the cards, Lyelle. They are perfect. Just the way I like it. :)

I (or someone) still need to do the 'Other' section.

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Re: I moved all the cards to the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4334.msg45640#msg45640
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2010, 05:04:49 pm »
Anyone see anything weird with the new card images? Look closely.

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Re: I moved all the cards to the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4334.msg45678#msg45678
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2010, 06:02:04 pm »
Anyone see anything weird with the new card images? Look closely.
Huh? What do you mean? I don't see anything weird.
To be or not to be, I can do both at once. Go learn quantum mechanics, n00b.

Lyelle

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Re: I moved all the cards to the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4334.msg45848#msg45848
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2010, 12:18:19 am »
Cant see anything wierd either, but i see that not all cards are fixed yet ;D

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Re: I moved all the cards to the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4334.msg45993#msg45993
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2010, 06:58:31 am »
Yep, there's nothing weird with them actually. I just changed them from PNG-24 to PNG-8 and tested if you guys saw the difference :)

The problem was that those original images were PNG-24 with about 60k+ size. That meant that the card list pages were close to 2MB in size which is way too much.

PNG-8 is about 3 times smaller but the difference in quality is very small and hardly noticeable with human eye.

Lyelle

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Re: I moved all the cards to the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4334.msg46051#msg46051
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2010, 11:34:55 am »
strange, tried png8 myself, but all images looked kinde gif-like ;D

edit: ok, now i remember ;D - png8 sucks here. white borders, no transparency.
if the file size is a problem, i would prefer classic jpg with rounded borders -> better quality + smaller file size


Scaredgirl

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Re: I moved all the cards to the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4334.msg46098#msg46098
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2010, 02:18:30 pm »
strange, tried png8 myself, but all images looked kinde gif-like ;D

edit: ok, now i remember ;D - png8 sucks here. white borders, no transparency.
if the file size is a problem, i would prefer classic jpg with rounded borders -> better quality + smaller file size
Did you use Photoshop? Because some other software may produce really crappy looking PNG-8's.

If we only wanted speed, JPG would definitely be the way to go as it's 5 times smaller than PNG-24, without any noticeable differences. However the problem is rounded corners. JPG cannot do that, which is why it sucks.

The way I see it, we have a choice between:

1. PNG-24 with perfect quality (60k)
2. PNG-8 with good quality (18k)
3. JPG with good quality but crappy corners (12k)

I like option 2 the most.

Lyelle

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Re: I moved all the cards to the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4334.msg46106#msg46106
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2010, 02:47:40 pm »
in the current imageformat png8 has no transparency
need to change the format for that ;D

akromat

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Re: I moved all the cards to the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4334.msg46213#msg46213
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2010, 05:59:37 pm »
You could always make them jpg and then make rounded black or white corners with css. It'd just end up looking a little different.

Scaredgirl

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Re: I moved all the cards to the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4334.msg46215#msg46215
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2010, 06:05:25 pm »
in the current imageformat png8 has no transparency
need to change the format for that ;D
PNG-8 has 1-bit transparency, meaning all pixels are either solid or fully transparent.

You could always make them jpg and then make rounded black or white corners with css. It'd just end up looking a little different.
Yep, there's always that. It would definitely be the fastest way.

But I've been thinking about the fact that cards are the core of this game so maybe PNG-24 is not that bad.

Decisions, decisions..

akromat

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Re: I moved all the cards to the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4334.msg46253#msg46253
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2010, 08:14:03 pm »
I'm not sure the cards are even cut to a perfect transparency. The image has a small border anyway. It just blends well with the current color theme. This is what it looks like with a black background in that table cell.


Lyelle

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Re: I moved all the cards to the new Wiki https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4334.msg46396#msg46396
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2010, 12:59:57 am »
so, just to clear my point (sorry for being a fussy perfectionist). apart from the png8 theorie.
due to the png8 compression the images are 100% solid with the light border.
compressing with transparency would erase the border.

but just to close this discussion,  i will create the images in png8 (additive to the png24) so you can always decide which to use.
png24 dimension will change in this process, to assure same dimension in both formats.
fixing png24 in this process.

 

anything
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