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Re: STATMASTA™realtec - Keep it real (now with actual cardspin rates!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21654.msg380271#msg380271
« Reply #60 on: August 14, 2011, 05:22:44 pm »

Just wanted to say thanks. Awesome work!
Welcome ... thank you too for actually using the tool.  ;)


Thanks! :3

EDIT: Instead of asking me what to delete, it simply says, "Protected cells cannot be modified".
I'll just manually delete them one at a time, won't take too long.
Yeah well ... I am guessing you marked ALL of the visible cells on sheet 1 at once?
Doing so also marks two protected columns (which are in between the input columns)
so it doesnt work for Excel/OO.

What you can do though, is marking only the darkred-framed fields by click-drag.
That would be a three-step process and you don't have to clear them cell by cell.


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Re: STATMASTA™realtec - Keep it real (now with actual cardspin rates!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21654.msg380305#msg380305
« Reply #61 on: August 14, 2011, 08:03:54 pm »
^ Yes, I ended up doing that. Saved a lot of time haha.

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Re: STATMASTA™realtec - Keep it real (now with actual cardspin rates!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21654.msg396270#msg396270
« Reply #62 on: September 20, 2011, 07:24:34 pm »


The STATMASTA™4000 has been downloaded over 90 times for MS-Excel and over 50 times for Open-Office!

But its days are over now ...




    S T A T M A S T A™ r e a l t e c

is out!

You can download it from the OP as usual




        What's new?

Well ... on the outside the update really isn't all that wild.
In fact, everything stays exactly the same as it was in the Statmasta4000, except for one thing:

Realistic cardspin-rates!

This is a small change on the inside of the tool, which carries very far
and could only be made because of tons of work people put in to derive
the actual cardwin-rate for each god.
Until now, the theoretical cardspin-rate of 35% was assumed for all gods,
meaning when calculating your FGei(c) and FGei(cn), the tool would assume that
each win against any god yields 0.35 cards in three spins.

As we know now, this is very far from reality even if the overall cardspin-rate used
to be around those 35% a couple years ago.

The FG-efficiency-study (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25609.0.html) and the False-god card drop rate study (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,30140.0.html)
have each produced samples over ~100 won games against each FG that produced conclusive
evidence about the actual cardspin-rate each individual false god has.

By merging the two studies data and hence creating sample sizes over ~200 won games/ god,
the theoretical cardwin-probabilities as calculated by DarkWeaver (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,20376.msg420980#msg420980) could indeed be verified:


FGDarkWeaverMerged studiesSample size
Akebono
Chaos Lord
Dark Matter
Decay
Destiny
Divine Glory
Dream Catcher
Elidnis
Eternal Phoenix
Ferox
Fire Queen
Gemini
Graviton
Hecate
Hermes
Incarnate
Jezebel
Lionheart
Miracle
Morte
Neptune
Obliterator
Octane
Osiris
Paradox
Rainbow
Scorpio
Seism
Serket
58,63%
38,68%
41,26%
61,41%
44,74%
68,00%
37,58%
37,33%
56,25%
44,43%
50,92%
49,76%
46,88%
54,71%
39,26%
48,34%
59,72%
47,36%
37,75%
37,84%
47,07%
48,15%
59,71%
57,22%
48,19%
36,10%
36,54%
41,99%
48,29%
56,86%
40,71%
38,40%
59,74%
43,54%
80,80%
34,02%
35,07%
43,42%
50,28%
51,94%
44,39%
45,88%
56,29%
30,99%
45,51%
54,13%
39,29%
37,37%
34,45%
41,14%
44,83%
54,74%
54,75%
52,16%
31,78%
37,21%
41,46%
42,92%
204
140
125
154
294
125
97
211
76
177
206
223
85
167
71
334
109
252
281
209
333
203
137
179
324
107
129
164
219
The second column shows the merged results from the two abovementioned studies.
The first column shows Dark Weavers theoretical result as you get it when multiplying
his probabilities to win a card in 1 spin by three (for you have three spins/ win).
Note that none of these values should be expressed as a percentage, since they
are actually expected values -> number of expected cardwins / win,
so for Akebono that would be .586 cards / three spins, for Chaos Lord .386 etc.

It is these numbers in the first column which are now employed by the Statmasta
for each god individually to calculate your FGei(c)s and your FGei(cn) resulting in a
performance estimation that couldn't be any closer to reality, or in short:


FGei(c)s and FGei(cn) now ACTUALLY express
how much electrum you can expect to win per hour!


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       How to carry over old data to the realtec-edition

If you have a work in progress that you want to continue with the updated version of the
STATMASTA or if you want to see how some older deck-stats change with the new, actual
cardspin-rates you can simply transfer your data as such:

- open a copy of the STATMASTA realtec
- clear all input-fields
- open your old data-file while using OpenOffice
-> OpenOffice can also open Excel-files but not vice versa ... dumbass Microsoft morons
- mark input columns 1-5 (wins, losses, skips, EMs/wins, $won) by click n drag, don't miss a single cell
-> "copy"
- mark the exact same "field" in the realtec-file
-> "insert contents" -> uncheck "all" -> check "text", "values", "formulas" only!
-> confirm
- repeat marking and copying like this for input columns 6-8 (times) and input column 9 (cards won) in two seperate steps

- done


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MS-Excel support disbanded for the time being!

I am sorry to inform you that there will not be an MS-Excel version of the STATMASTA realtec right now.
I may redo the code as I did for Open-Office in a while ... but not right now.

Open-Office is for free though ...



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Re: STATMASTA™realtec - Keep it real (now with actual cardspin rates!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21654.msg396456#msg396456
« Reply #63 on: September 21, 2011, 12:42:17 am »
it's really sad to learn that MS-excel will not be supported... ::)

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Re: STATMASTA™realtec - Keep it real (now with actual cardspin rates!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21654.msg396817#msg396817
« Reply #64 on: September 21, 2011, 04:35:47 pm »
it's really sad to learn that MS-excel will not be supported... ::)
+1

We want excel :P

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Re: STATMASTA™realtec - Keep it real (now with actual cardspin rates!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21654.msg396872#msg396872
« Reply #65 on: September 21, 2011, 06:34:38 pm »
it's really sad to learn that MS-excel will not be supported... ::)
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We want excel :P
Not that I play elements anymore, but if i did i would still use the old stamasta (4000) because excel is :D and openoffice is -_-

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Re: STATMASTA™realtec - Keep it real (now with actual cardspin rates!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21654.msg397094#msg397094
« Reply #66 on: September 22, 2011, 12:11:23 am »


Lol ... ok guys, I get it and kind of agree.

Excel somehow is way cooler as in "feels more professional" or something.

Then again it drives me nuts how picky it is: You can't even open an .ods
file with the latest 2010-version because ... well because MS assumes shutting
out all competition is the way to maintain market-supremacy or whyever you
would do something stupid like this when the competitor allows perfect
compatibility with just about everything. You could probably open a lunch-pack
with open office and it would work just fine!
When I tried to compile all the efficiency-study files into one big one with OO,
I ran into the problem that a cell may only have up to 800 something characters.
Off I went reading about Excel 2010 allowing up to 10000 something characters.
Was it possible to import the data from OO to Excel2010? Nooo ... of course not,
so I ended up using OO anyways and came up with a workaround.
Then the whole non-compatibility issue with itself: What a pain in the ass it was
having to redo a large portion of the formulas to make it work in all Excel-versions
from the 2000edition onwards ... ridiculous.
So yeah, I am holding a bigass grudge against Excel and the entire MS-company
that still seems to get away with overall absolutely mediocre products in spite of
very decent freeware from the opensource-sector invading the market.

Now the actual reason here is, that I am just too lazy and busy to do that last
update manually all over for Excel again, and of course it would have to be
manually because you can't simply import the file.
It's actually not sooo much work but I just wanna get those skip-stats for the
efficiency-study done first and lay off the inside-guts of the Statmasta for the time
being. There will be an Excel version sometime "soon", it's just not going to be
anytime close like next week ...
 


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Re: STATMASTA™realtec - Keep it real (now with actual cardspin rates!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21654.msg397278#msg397278
« Reply #67 on: September 22, 2011, 12:22:22 pm »
i haz a stairmaster its quiet similar to thiz. it saves up data of how many fat calory ive burned in a single hour and wut moves i gotta do next.
i usually pick water element too  cause u loose lots of sweat.

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Re: STATMASTA™realtec - Keep it real (now with actual cardspin rates!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21654.msg397281#msg397281
« Reply #68 on: September 22, 2011, 12:25:54 pm »
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Good job Jangoo!Very good update.
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Re: STATMASTA™realtec - Keep it real (now with actual cardspin rates!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21654.msg397371#msg397371
« Reply #69 on: September 22, 2011, 04:54:27 pm »
@jangoo I completely understand the reason, but I think a lot of people are satisfied with the fact that there will be a excel version, and can come up with some patience. Thanks for making this epic project work!

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Re: STATMASTA™realtec - Keep it real (now with actual cardspin rates!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21654.msg411646#msg411646
« Reply #70 on: October 17, 2011, 09:53:56 pm »
I don't know if this is happening to anyone else but if I get any ems, and say so in realtec it decides that the tracking enabled should be changed to disabled. If I take out the em its goes back to enabled? am I missing something here or am I just entering something wrong??

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Re: STATMASTA™realtec - Keep it real (now with actual cardspin rates!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21654.msg411650#msg411650
« Reply #71 on: October 17, 2011, 10:00:22 pm »
I don't know if this is happening to anyone else but if I get any ems, and say so in realtec it decides that the tracking enabled should be changed to disabled. If I take out the em its goes back to enabled? am I missing something here or am I just entering something wrong??
The EM-column is EMs out of wins, meaning if you win a game with an EM you should
up the number by 1 in the win-column AND in the EM-column.

 

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