Radio Development Discussion

[artimies7]

What would pure instrumental be? I would think Air if it favors wind instruments, but Gravity if it has lots of low drums. (As in the bigger the drum, the lower the sound, the more it connects with Gravy.)

Brass would sound very Time-ey, IMHO. Especially Big Band music a la Glenn Miller.

Seeing as "pure instrumental" isn't defined as a genre or subgenre of any kind of music, "pure instrumental" could refer to anything from pop to rock to metal to bluegrass and everything in between.

I meant this sort of thing, with lots of thematic ties and etc. You know, not this genre of songs in specific, but softish and nice. You know?

[BeefSupreme]

What would pure instrumental be? I would think Air if it favors wind instruments, but Gravity if it has lots of low drums. (As in the bigger the drum, the lower the sound, the more it connects with Gravy.)

Brass would sound very Time-ey, IMHO. Especially Big Band music a la Glenn Miller.

Seeing as "pure instrumental" isn't defined as a genre or subgenre of any kind of music, "pure instrumental" could refer to anything from pop to rock to metal to bluegrass and everything in between.

I meant this sort of thing, with lots of thematic ties and etc. You know, not this genre of songs in specific, but softish and nice. You know?

I kind of understand what you're saying (that song is amazing, btw) and pure instrumental stuff like this would probably best fit into Darkness x)

[artimies7]

soft piano and what the junk is that

I think that there's enough variety in the instrumental stuff that you can stick a bit of lyricless into most/all of the elements. Darkness can be suspense or drama music. Big emotional swoons, amirite?

[Naesala]

I agree with what else has been said, if you do genres and they dont fit thematically (and I have no idea how you think rap is more appropriate for gravity that dark, listen to the lyrics of a lot of rap...) You're going to leave many people displeased. So, either find a better thematical fit per genre, or better just choose songs that fit the element. I remember seeing an entire thread of songs that were card/elements names, that would be a great start. Edit: found it http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,47103.0.html

No offense to you, but if it remains as is, I will never listen to Elements radio.

[BeefSupreme]

I agree with what else has been said, if you do genres and they dont fit thematically (and I have no idea how you think rap is more appropriate for gravity that dark, listen to the lyrics of a lot of rap...) You're going to leave many people displeased. So, either find a better thematical fit per genre, or better just choose songs that fit the element. I remember seeing an entire thread of songs that were card/elements names, that would be a great start. Edit: found it http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,47103.0.html

No offense to you, but if it remains as is, I will never listen to Elements radio.

Songs that have the name of the Element in them =/= thematic fit
Gravity, as a sound, has been characterized (by the Elements Community; not just me) as a heavy/solid bassline (i.e. hip-hop/rap).
I'm sorry, but I'm going by the choices of Elements Community. I'm honestly trying my best to make everyone happy.
According to this thread, the three most requested genres for were Dubstep, Metal, and Hip-Hop/Rap.

[Naesala]

We obviously have very different definitions as to what fits thematically.

[BeefSupreme]

We obviously have very different definitions as to what fits thematically.

It wasn't my definition. Don't blame me for using what the people said.

[Elbirn]

Nothing really to comment on the gravity debate, but let me just offer my 100% support of making darkness a timeslot for classy/dark/instrumental/whatever, because that sounds quite fitting and boss as hell.

[ddevans96]

5-6 and 17-18 GMT Dubstep

Put these three dubstep songs on the same station, and reasonably justify it.

A || B || C

It's a dubstep radio station. Boom. Next problem.

Okay then, so I'll enjoy listening Neil Diamond and Metallica on the same station, right? Because that's the exact kind of thing you're doing.

I'll restate: electronic music (your current aether, entropy, and water) needs to be sorted by volume, tempo, and structure, with volume as the most important, just like all of of your current non-electronic stations seem to be. You don't want to be listening to the radio and go from rawr? to RAWR!, or vice versa.

Especially consider a song like Eyes on You (my song A), which I'd argue for your current darkness over any of those three.

[BeefSupreme]

5-6 and 17-18 GMT Dubstep

Put these three dubstep songs on the same station, and reasonably justify it.

A || B || C

It's a dubstep radio station. Boom. Next problem.

Okay then, so I'll enjoy listening Neil Diamond and Metallica on the same station, right? Because that's the exact kind of thing you're doing.

I'll restate: electronic music (your current aether, entropy, and water) needs to be sorted by volume, tempo, and structure, with volume as the most important, just like all of of your current non-electronic stations seem to be. You don't want to be listening to the radio and go from rawr? to RAWR!, or vice versa.

Especially consider a song like Eyes on You (my song A), which I'd argue for your current darkness over any of those three.

Okay, I'm understanding what you're saying and I getcha. What do you suggest we change the three to? I'd say that should be the lowest volume of the three, with as the mid-ground and being the loudest of the three. How do you think we should rename those appropriately?

[Elbirn]

Mayhaps I'm just an ignorant pleb, but I don't see the difference between the three songs that Ddev's posted as being so great. However I'm considering that it's probably just something I don't understand because electronic music, though a vague interest of mine, is not exactly my forte. I'd probably throw a fit if someone made a stoner metal station and put, say, Dragonforce on it, and I think that's what's going on here. Having said that, I don't think we need 3 stations of dubstep.

If we're going to start nit picking over genres being clumped together, I think we need to start with the time station. What exactly do you call "Oldies"? Anything older than 1960?

[BeefSupreme]

Mayhaps I'm just an ignorant pleb, but I don't see the difference between the three songs that Ddev's posted as being so great. However I'm considering that it's probably just something I don't understand because electronic music, though a vague interest of mine, is not exactly my forte. I'd probably throw a fit if someone made a stoner metal station and put, say, Dragonforce on it, and I think that's what's going on here. Having said that, I don't think we need 3 stations of dubstep.

If we're going to start nit picking over genres being clumped together, I think we need to start with the time station. What exactly do you call "Oldies"? Anything older than 1960?

Oldies would be classified as anything from around 1955 to 1972. Anything older than that would be classified as "classic hits," which could still be considered "old," but a different era of "old" and therefore will be placed in their respective genres (some restrictions will apply; none of these genres are completely exclusive).