Radio Development Discussion

[Elbirn]

0-1 and 12-13 GMT Electronic
1-2 and 13-14 GMT Alternative
2-3 and 14-15 GMT (TBD)
3-4 and 15-16 GMT Metal (sorry metal purists -- you only get one station)
4-5 and 16-17 GMT Rock
5-6 and 17-18 GMT Dubstep
6-7 and 18-19 GMT Punk
7-8 and 19-20 GMT Rap/Hip-Hop
8-9 and 20-21 GMT Reggae
9-10 and 21-22 GMT Pop
10-11 and 22-23 GMT Oldies
11-12 and 23-24 Trance/House

Soo... what does alternative entail? If alternative means "Any kind of rock-ish music that isnt metal/hard rock", and not "90's radio rock", I'll be happy. I'd like to see some progressive/post rock there.

As for Darkness...Good luck with not giving up and making that a metal station. Seriously.

[BeefSupreme]

Alternative will probably be Indie Rock, Prog. Rock, New Wave, Grunge, and Alt. Rock.
Metal will be metal.
Rock will be very diverse and also include harder rock.
Although I may give in and make Darkness another Metal station.

[Naesala]

Please make Gravity something other than Rap/Hip-hop. 1)It doesnt have a thematic fit 2)I really don't like either and gravity is my favorite element. Could we put it on dark or somewhere else and try to find something better?

[BeefSupreme]

Please make Gravity something other than Rap/Hip-hop. 1)It doesnt have a thematic fit 2)I really don't like either and gravity is my favorite element. Could we put it on dark or somewhere else and try to find something better?

1) More thematically fitting to Gravity than it is Darkness. 2) Darkness is my favorite Element.
Also, in this thread, Hip-Hop as Gravity was a fair majority of people.
Sorry, Nae. It's not like I'm dissing your favorite element, but what genre of music we play for 2 (total) hours a day shouldn't affect you that much.

[Tiko]

May I ask what's the benefit in trying to squeeze in the elements into certain musical styles? Elements are the building blocks of Nature themselves, I find it hard to fit such force into such simple-sided representation, not to mention how narrow-minded some music genres can be when it comes to self-expression.

Also, some people have a very 'selective attitude' towards music, and let's say if one only appreciates Metal in general and can't stand any other form of sound, but the show is only aired while on that part of the world work-hours are still going; he simply won't listen to the Radio, ever. May be a bit harsh example, but there are peopleout there who think like this.

I'm not sure if this is the right way.

[Keolino]

May I ask what's the benefit in trying to squeeze in the elements into certain musical styles? Elements are the building blocks of Nature themselves, I find it hard to fit such force into such simple-sided representation, not to mention how narrow-minded some music genres can be when it comes to self-expression.

Also, some people have a very 'selective attitude' towards music, and let's say if one only appreciates Metal in general and can't stand any other form of sound, but the show is only aired while on that part of the world work-hours are still going; he simply won't listen to the Radio, ever. May be a bit harsh example, but there are peopleout there who think like this.

I'm not sure if this is the right way.

Everything is made so that as many people as possible (well, it can´t be everybody) can enjoy listening to the radio. If you have a better solution to achive that, I would like to hear how you would do it. Because I, for my part, doesn´t know a better way than this one thats playing certain music genres at certain hours.

[Elbirn]

Rather than genres, you could play songs that represent whatever element is "on the air". I suppose that this could lead to mishmashes and oddness; going from say death metal to soft indie to electro to polka to kpop to gods knows what else, it could get weird.

There's a reason why actual radio stations stick to a general set of genres/sounds.

[ddevans96]

5-6 and 17-18 GMT Dubstep

Put these three dubstep songs on the same station, and reasonably justify it.

A || B || C

Apples, oranges, and peaches among the three songs I linked, but because of how dubstep is defined, they are all dubstep. More important than genre here are concepts of volume, tempo, and structure. These can divide dubstep into further subgenres, which actually can be allocated to elements, but dubstep alone cannot.

I could make this argument about house, trance, and many other primary genres of electronic as well, I just don't feel like it. To be honest, you can probablydo the same about metal, rock, and pop, and likely several other genres. I just don't know as much about those :3

[BeefSupreme]

I would love if people could give ideas, but what's the worst is when people say "you're doing it wrong" but don't have a better solution or anything to contribute.

May I ask what's the benefit in trying to squeeze in the elements into certain musical styles? Elements are the building blocks of Nature themselves, I find it hard to fit such force into such simple-sided representation, not to mention how narrow-minded some music genres can be when it comes to self-expression.

Also, some people have a very 'selective attitude' towards music, and let's say if one only appreciates Metal in general and can't stand any other form of sound, but the show is only aired while on that part of the world work-hours are still going; he simply won't listen to the Radio, ever. May be a bit harsh example, but there are peopleout there who think like this.

I'm not sure if this is the right way.

Well, the reason I did two one hour segments twice a day (instead of the alternative 2 straight hours of that genre per day) was to give people the best chance they can to listen to their favorite genre.
If their favorite station plays at 2AM their time, it will also play at 2PM, where they are more available, so I'm doing the best I can there.

Rather than genres, you could play songs that represent whatever element is "on the air". I suppose that this could lead to mishmashes and oddness; going from say death metal to soft indie to electro to polka to kpop to gods knows what else, it could get weird.

There's a reason why actual radio stations stick to a general set of genres/sounds.

What do you mean by "whatever element is 'on the air'"? Sorry if I'm missing something, but I don't get it.
Well, as much as I'd like to "stick to one genre," this is the only way we can please everyone. If you have a better idea I'd love to hear it.

5-6 and 17-18 GMT Dubstep

Put these three dubstep songs on the same station, and reasonably justify it.

A || B || C

It's a dubstep radio station. Boom. Next problem.

Apples, oranges, and peaches among the three songs I linked, but because of how dubstep is defined, they are all dubstep. More important than genre here are concepts of volume, tempo, and structure. These can divide dubstep into further subgenres, which actually can be allocated to elements, but dubstep alone cannot.

you can probably do the same about metal, rock, and pop, and likely several other genres.

Metal:
* Thrash Metal
* Dark Metal
* Stoner Metal
* Speed Metal
* Progressive Metal
* Power Metal
* Party Metal
* Math Metal
* Nu Metal
* Hair Metal
(and there are more)

Rock:
* Indie Rock
* Punk
* Britpop
* Blues Rock
You know what, there are too many to list.
Technically speaking, Metal is just a subgenre of Rock.

[artimies7]

What would pure instrumental be? I would think Air if it favors wind instruments, but Gravity if it has lots of low drums. (As in the bigger the drum, the lower the sound, the more it connects with Gravy.)

Brass would sound very Time-ey, IMHO. Especially Big Band music a la Glenn Miller.

[BeefSupreme]

What would pure instrumental be? I would think Air if it favors wind instruments, but Gravity if it has lots of low drums. (As in the bigger the drum, the lower the sound, the more it connects with Gravy.)

Brass would sound very Time-ey, IMHO. Especially Big Band music a la Glenn Miller.

Seeing as "pure instrumental" isn't defined as a genre or subgenre of any kind of music, "pure instrumental" could refer to anything from pop to rock to metal to bluegrass and everything in between.

[Elbirn]

Too lazy to pick my quote out of your quote of quotes, but yeah. By "Whatever element is on the air", I meant that instead of picking a genre to represent, say, earth, we pick SONGS that represent earth. These songs don't have to be the same genre or musical style. The songs themselves just have to in some way evoke the idea of . Was all I meant. I don't think I threw out any harsh or negative criticism either, but you seem to think I was attacking or telling you you're doing it wrong, and if so I apologize.

Also, happy to see someone with an intricate knowledge of rawk working closely on the radio project