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Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Software Change Log) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53463.msg1104172#msg1104172
« on: October 18, 2013, 06:20:37 am »
As we've moved back to Blab, features are still being fixed and added. Feel free to suggest stuff here.

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For learning all the Blab commands and features, please see:
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All issues and feature requests should be reported via the community issue tracker:
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I split this topic off from:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/elements-chat/customizing-elements-chat/

"Customizing Elements Chat" was about customizing your message colors and getting an avatar, etc.

This topic will be about customizing the Blab software itself. I will post changes to Blab as replies to this topic. I will also build up a change log below for major additions and deletions of features. Bug fixes and minor changes will be left out.

Change Log:
  • October 2013
    • Added card tags, same usage as forum
    • Added deck tags, same usage as forum
  • December 03, 2013
    • Added guest access with restricted usernames
    • Created initial guest username system
  • December 27, 2013
    • Added /me command
  • January 11, 2014
    • Added tab complete
    • Added inline highlight
    • Added join/leave messages
  • January 12, 2014
    • opt+click and alt+click now hide media objects such as image/deck/video/card/painting
    • Added AveragePotato alerts for new forum posts
    • Added on-demand hide tools for media objects, join/leave messages, and AveragePotato messages
  • January 21, 2014
    • Added Web Notifications API support for highlighted messages (does not notify if you are set as Away)
  • September 17th, 2015
    • AveragePotato is no longer personal, he shows the most recent public post to everyone in actual chat. Everyone sees the same message.
    • PrivatePotato is private, the messages you see from him are to you only and show the latest post from any private forums to which you have access.
    • You can now poke PrivatePotato to have him show the latest private post regardless of whether he has shown it to you before.
    • You can now hide/show (toggle) instead of just hide various aspects of chat. Added to this is the ability to toggle in-chat private messages.
    • Various Notification issues were fixed including the enable notifications button.
    • Banned users who have had their ban expire could no longer join chat. This has been fixed.
    • A joke /quit was added. This will be made properly at some point in the future.
    • Admins now have a special colored name in the Online list so that new users can more quickly identify to whom to escalate issues.
    • Two new emoticons were added, :sillyspin: and :awesome:
    • Chat Profiles (clicking on a username in the Online list) now include IGN, Favorite Element, and Pronoun, as well as general reformatting.
  • September 22nd, 2015
    • You now only get highlighted if your username in a message matches exactly your username, capitalization matters, it can't be a substring of another word
    • AveragePotato has increased his vocabulary
    • Potatoes are now slightly faster
    • The Elements database now does auto-backups at 10:31 UTC
  • September 29th, 2015
    • /quit now actually logs you out, a simple /quit still shows the old joke message, /quit <message> allows for a custom quit message
    • You can now add more words to highlight/notify you in your Account Settings
  • October 1st, 2015
    • Guests can now be highlighted by their creature name. This is case-sensitive.
    • Tab-complete now works for guest creature names. This is case-insensitive.
  • October 26th, 2015
  • December 23rd, 2015
    • Added support for /card and /card X (where X is a number between 1 and 7).
  • December 27th, 2015
    • Fixed issue where Hide Media, J/L, PM, Potato, and All would not keep new items hidden.
    • History updates! Bigger panel, better options for time periods, and a Go To Page feature.
    • Added /money, /money balance, /money set X, /money add X, and /money sub X.
    • Added /eightball <question>.
  • July 12, 2016
    • Put AveragePotato in Tourney room (filtered to only show posts in Tourney board).
  • July 20, 2016
    • Masters can now go invisible.
    • Invisible users can now PM other users.
    • Users receiving PMs (from invisible & visible users) can now open the PM window by clicking on the username in the PM itself.
  • November 17, 2016
    • Added the ability to draw Elements cards with the /card command.
    • Added subforum to AveragePotato messages.
  • November 20, 2016
    • Users without a primary user group now use their post group.
    • Forum members no longer show their user group as Member, instead showing the primary user group or post group.
    • Guests are now in a Guest group which has its own separate permissions.
    • Anyone with the Chat Moderator group, whether set as a primary or additional user group, will be able to moderate chat and go invisible.
  • December 9, 2016
    • All forum groups are now matched with a corresponding Blab group.
    • Blab group names now match the color of the forum group names.
    • You can now post a deck code without the deck tag and it will still generate an image, but only for decks with 30 cards minimum.
    • Added greentext.
    • Fixed apostrophes in links.
    • Links now use the anchor tag and target is _blank to use a new window/tab.
  • December 21, 2016
    • Added ways to get boilerplate help from AveragePotato
    • You can no longer ping yourself.
  • December 22, 2016
    • Added the first version of the skyroll™ game to /roll
  • January 4, 2017
    • Fixed the italics issue for mentions where the right guillemet was missing
    • Fixed links without a protocol acting as relative links
    • Starting a line with / will prevent links from being parsed
    • Images can now be embedded with /img
    • Images that are embedded without a url will instead use the input as a search with Google Images, returning the first result
    • added /gif and [gif]
  • January 6, 2017
    • Added /card
  • January 11, 2017
    • Changed the old /card to /draw
  • January 11, 2017
    • Changed the old /card to /draw
  • January 12, 2017
    • Added /rollinfo
  • January 17, 2017
    • Added /first and /last so you can lookup the first and last message of a user
    • Added /pingjoin /pingsay /pj /ps so you can be notified when a user joins or speaks/acts
    • Added /pinglist and /pl so you can list your current pings
  • January 18, 2017
    • Added /xkcd
    • Fixed chat toggles when no user found
    • Added number formatting to /rollinfo
    • PrivatePotato is lazier if you don't have private board access
  • January 23, 2017
    • The /first and /last commands now use the user id
    • Added /issue command to share the Bitbucket issue tracker for the community software
  • January 27, 2017
    • Added a local computer time synchronizer to the roll timer
    • Added PrivatePotato messages for the roll timer
  • January 31, 2017
    • Added live timer to roll timer icon, toggle visibility on click
  • February 2, 2017
    • Added button for user tag in forum post editor
  • February 4, 2017
    • Added /r as shortcut for /roll, add /rr as a way to roll without logging to skyroll
    • Added /ri as shortcut for /rollinfo
    • Completely overhauled rollinfo to give more info and use proper grammar and tense depending on whether the set was completed
    • Added a way to check dice count to rollinfo (e.g. /ri 1d)
    • Fixed /pingjoin and /pingsay to work with dashed names
  • February 5, 2017
    • Use dice icon to not only toggle visibility of timer, but also PrivatePotato messages
« Last Edit: February 20, 2017, 04:27:39 pm by antiaverage »
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Re: Taming the Wild Blab https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53463.msg1104180#msg1104180
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2013, 07:08:59 am »
It would be nice to have a plain text mode: no colored font, italics or bold, pictures, smilies and similar appearing as code and not as pictures (just to not have to look at those pictures :p). Oh, and a background that supports Dark text colors.

It may also be an idea to have sounds disabled by default since for people new to the chat I can imagine it being very... annoying until you find a way to turn it off.

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Re: Taming the Wild Blab https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53463.msg1104332#msg1104332
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2013, 09:38:59 pm »
It would be nice to have a plain text mode: no colored font, italics or bold, pictures, smilies and similar appearing as code and not as pictures (just to not have to look at those pictures :p). Oh, and a background that supports Dark text colors.

It may also be an idea to have sounds disabled by default since for people new to the chat I can imagine it being very... annoying until you find a way to turn it off.

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Re: Taming the Wild Blab https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53463.msg1104341#msg1104341
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2013, 10:22:57 pm »
What they said. If possible, lighten the background so black and white both look good on it.
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Re: Taming the Wild Blab https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53463.msg1105164#msg1105164
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2013, 12:55:07 am »
Being able to see people log into or out of chat would be nice. Being able to toggle whether to see people log into or out of chat would be even nicer. Resurrecting the new-post marquee (or announcing new posts in chat or something else that accomplishes the same thing) would be downright fantastic.

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Re: Taming the Wild Blab https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53463.msg1105358#msg1105358
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2013, 08:21:53 pm »
It would be nice to have a plain text mode: no colored font, italics or bold, pictures, smilies and similar appearing as code and not as pictures (just to not have to look at those pictures :p). Oh, and a background that supports Dark text colors.

It may also be an idea to have sounds disabled by default since for people new to the chat I can imagine it being very... annoying until you find a way to turn it off.

What they said. If possible, lighten the background so black and white both look good on it.

Being able to see people log into or out of chat would be nice. Being able to toggle whether to see people log into or out of chat would be even nicer. Resurrecting the new-post marquee (or announcing new posts in chat or something else that accomplishes the same thing) would be downright fantastic.

In other words, make it more-or-less exactly like the IRC you just took away from us.
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Re: Taming the Wild Blab https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53463.msg1105505#msg1105505
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2013, 01:23:46 pm »
IRC was there one month after my birth, before I made a channel on ext3, and will still be there in 10 years. As will our channel on the network that I made. I've taken nothing, but I did create one thing and introduced many to a wonderful protocol.

It was an easy choice to switch back considering how many users we lost by moving to IRC. Forum traffic is very important and it should come as no surprise that most users aren't very tech-savvy or just don't want to deal with learning a new chat protocol.
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Re: Taming the Wild Blab https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53463.msg1105510#msg1105510
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2013, 02:08:23 pm »
IRC was there one month after my birth, before I made a channel on ext3, and will still be there in 10 years. As will our channel on the network that I made. I've taken nothing, but I did create one thing and introduced many to a wonderful protocol.

It was an easy choice to switch back considering how many users we lost by moving to IRC. Forum traffic is very important and it should come as no surprise that most users aren't very tech-savvy or just don't want to deal with learning a new chat protocol.
When we switched from the old chat to the new I thought it was a bad thing. But several months later I've gotten used to the new chat and I can see the benefits of the new chat and personally I think benefits over shine the disadvantages.

Benefits with new caht compared to the old
1: YOu can ping
2: Pm's open in new tabs at the same page instead opening a new window
3: Easier to read( minor benefit )
4: You can see when people log on and of

Benfits with the old chat
1: You can change your color
2: The layout is looking much better
3: You can see how many posts the persons made in chat + if they got a title.
4: You can pm in chat log.
5: You can mute people
6: You can post pics.

Both benefit and disadvantage
You can change your name

I don't say we should switch back to the new chat, I just think it's worth having this in mind.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2013, 02:21:17 pm by Blacksmith »
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Re: Taming the Wild Blab https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53463.msg1105520#msg1105520
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2013, 03:28:14 pm »
IRC was there one month after my birth, before I made a channel on ext3, and will still be there in 10 years. As will our channel on the network that I made. I've taken nothing, but I did create one thing and introduced many to a wonderful protocol.

It was an easy choice to switch back considering how many users we lost by moving to IRC. Forum traffic is very important and it should come as no surprise that most users aren't very tech-savvy or just don't want to deal with learning a new chat protocol.
When we switched from the old chat to the new I thought it was a bad thing. But several months later I've gotten used to the new chat and I can see the benefits of the new chat and personally I think benefits over shine the disadvantages.

Benefits with new caht compared to the old
1: YOu can ping
2: Pm's open in new tabs at the same page instead opening a new window
3: Easier to read( minor benefit )
4: You can see when people log on and of

Benfits with the old chat
1: You can change your color
2: The layout is looking much better
3: You can see how many posts the persons made in chat + if they got a title.
4: You can pm in chat log.
5: You can mute people
6: You can post pics.

Both benefit and disadvantage
You can change your name

I don't say we should switch back to the new chat, I just think it's worth having this in mind.

Additional benefit to blab: It's hosted by us and not reliant on the IRC protocol, so it can be updated to include more or less whatever we feel like, including everything you listed as a benefit of IRC over this.

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Re: Taming the Wild Blab https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53463.msg1105527#msg1105527
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2013, 04:00:54 pm »
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IRC was there one month after my birth, before I made a channel on ext3, and will still be there in 10 years. As will our channel on the network that I made. I've taken nothing, but I did create one thing and introduced many to a wonderful protocol.

It was an easy choice to switch back considering how many users we lost by moving to IRC. Forum traffic is very important and it should come as no surprise that most users aren't very tech-savvy or just don't want to deal with learning a new chat protocol.
When we switched from the old chat to the new I thought it was a bad thing. But several months later I've gotten used to the new chat and I can see the benefits of the new chat and personally I think benefits over shine the disadvantages.

Benefits with new caht compared to the old
1: YOu can ping
2: Pm's open in new tabs at the same page instead opening a new window
3: Easier to read( minor benefit )
4: You can see when people log on and of

Benfits with the old chat
1: You can change your color
2: The layout is looking much better
3: You can see how many posts the persons made in chat + if they got a title.
4: You can pm in chat log.
5: You can mute people
6: You can post pics.

Both benefit and disadvantage
You can change your name

I don't say we should switch back to the new chat, I just think it's worth having this in mind.

Additional benefit to blab: It's hosted by us and not reliant on the IRC protocol, so it can be updated to include more or less whatever we feel like, including everything you listed as a benefit of IRC over this.
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Re: Taming the Wild Blab https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53463.msg1105541#msg1105541
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2013, 05:15:09 pm »
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The old Blab chat is back up! Our IRC channel will remain, but unmoderated as we can't afford to divide our main chat.

IRC was there one month after my birth, before I made a channel on ext3, and will still be there in 10 years. As will our channel on the network that I made. I've taken nothing, but I did create one thing and introduced many to a wonderful protocol.
So, the thing we were using is still there, but we don't care about it anymore and are officially ignoring it.  For all practical purposes, it no longer exists, because all official announcements will happen in the new place.  But we didn't take away anything.

Makes perfect sense to me.
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Re: Taming the Wild Blab https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53463.msg1105544#msg1105544
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2013, 05:29:10 pm »
Spoiler for Quote pyramid stuff:
IRC was there one month after my birth, before I made a channel on ext3, and will still be there in 10 years. As will our channel on the network that I made. I've taken nothing, but I did create one thing and introduced many to a wonderful protocol.

It was an easy choice to switch back considering how many users we lost by moving to IRC. Forum traffic is very important and it should come as no surprise that most users aren't very tech-savvy or just don't want to deal with learning a new chat protocol.
When we switched from the old chat to the new I thought it was a bad thing. But several months later I've gotten used to the new chat and I can see the benefits of the new chat and personally I think benefits over shine the disadvantages.

Benefits with new caht compared to the old
1: YOu can ping
2: Pm's open in new tabs at the same page instead opening a new window
3: Easier to read( minor benefit )
4: You can see when people log on and of

Benfits with the old chat
1: You can change your color
2: The layout is looking much better
3: You can see how many posts the persons made in chat + if they got a title.
4: You can pm in chat log.
5: You can mute people
6: You can post pics.

Both benefit and disadvantage
You can change your name

I don't say we should switch back to the new chat, I just think it's worth having this in mind.
Additional benefit to blab: It's hosted by us and not reliant on the IRC protocol, so it can be updated to include more or less whatever we feel like, including everything you listed as a benefit of IRC over this.

If you're right, CG, then all the beneficial aspects of IRC should be programmed in to the blab chat.  Who is it that needs the forum-Inbox input for making this happen?
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(That solution seems win-win to me...  Or maybe win-win-win?)  /TheOfficeisawesome
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