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What Will They Use? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6945.msg74737#msg74737
« on: May 25, 2010, 08:08:30 pm »
If you were in another element and were going to face someone from earth, what type of deck would you take? Knowing this stuff would probably help us decide which decks to take against certain elements. I'd post my thoughts now but I'm too busy for a long post from my phone.

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Re: What Will They Use? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6945.msg74756#msg74756
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2010, 08:34:23 pm »
Good idea Dem. If someone has more ideas about earth decks I can probably think of the counters. My brain isn't working too well right now so I'll post whatever comes to my mind first.

For a shriker rush I'd choose a nice fire deck because it has amazing control. Even burrowed monsters fall to a Fire buckler.
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Re: What Will They Use? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6945.msg74817#msg74817
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2010, 09:50:07 pm »
Honestly, I don't know if we need to do it deck by deck. We can, but we can also look at how earth is typically used and what it is typically used with. Earth has speed and defense. To counter our speed, they'd take either control, or something that is comparably fast. They may also take defense, such as aether or darkness (the shields). To counter our defense, they could take swarm decks, fractal decks, denial decks, and pillarless decks.. I'm probably leaving stuff out.

They'd also want to counter our synergy decks (darkness, gravity, fire).

We must also expect some people to plan for us to build decks that counter them.

The thing that is probably our greatest weapon is surprise. If we make some decks that aren't typical of earth, there's a good chance they won't have planned for it and won't have the right deck to beat ours.

Just to list some things they might do:
Entropy may use discords and antimatters, slowing us down and rendering our creatures useless. A strategy for this would be steals/explosions, growth decks, poison decks, stall decks, low quanta use decks, and that's all I can think of for the moment.
Time would probably use rewinds on us and speed themselves up a bit. So creatureless may be useful. They may also use scarab decks.
Gravity will probably take otys and gravity shields.
Water and air would probably take freezes and shockwaves. Air would also have gases, so we could counter that with destruction and healing.
Death would definitely take bonewalls and poison, plus creature control.

That's all I deel like doing for now... I know, it's definitely not everything they could use against us.

One last thing though, when we find out who everyone is playing against, we can look at who the people from each element we are up against and see what they would take against other people so we can guess what they'd take against us.

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Re: What Will They Use? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6945.msg76699#msg76699
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2010, 08:38:36 pm »
well aether is probably going to try and fractal everything :'(

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Re: What Will They Use? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6945.msg77256#msg77256
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2010, 02:10:05 pm »
well aether is probably going to try and fractal everything :'(
Maybe but then again if they do use Fractal they are limited to Phase Recuse and creatures we use. Thus there are easy way to counter it. Using non earth creatures (they will think we will use earth and bring earth pillars/towers)

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Re: What Will They Use? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6945.msg77284#msg77284
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2010, 02:57:02 pm »
well aether is probably going to try and fractal everything :'(
Maybe but then again if they do use Fractal they are limited to Phase Recuse and creatures we use. Thus there are easy way to counter it. Using non earth creatures (they will think we will use earth and bring earth pillars/towers)
they also may go strictly mono on some decks.

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Re: What Will They Use? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6945.msg77379#msg77379
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2010, 05:22:28 pm »
If you think they will be going mono, fight fire with fire... sorta. Take a large deck with dimensional shields, PA's, and stone skins and just let them deck out.

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Re: What Will They Use? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6945.msg77470#msg77470
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2010, 07:13:09 pm »
fight fire with fire... sorta.
dont u mean fight aether with aether/earth :D

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Re: What Will They Use? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6945.msg77522#msg77522
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2010, 08:14:55 pm »
You say tomatoes and I say squash. I still don't eat either.

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Re: What Will They Use? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6945.msg78239#msg78239
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2010, 07:24:12 pm »
If you think they will be going mono, fight fire with fire... sorta. Take a large deck with dimensional shields, PA's, and stone skins and just let them deck out.
Unless they've made bigger than yours deck...

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Re: What Will They Use? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6945.msg78247#msg78247
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2010, 07:31:44 pm »
Mono-aether decks are usually small so they are more likely to be able to string together dimensional shields. The more spaced out your shields are, the more vulnerable you are.

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Re: What Will They Use? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6945.msg79677#msg79677
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2010, 06:43:39 pm »
Stall deck of Aether (or it could look similar to this)
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5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61u 61t 61t 61t
BRING DEFLAGATIONS!!! or MOMENTUM

 

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