VAULT

[Skydaemon]

Rather than comment on individual things, I adjusted "SkyVault" on that page to reflect the latest that I think it should be.

Most important, imo we need 3 fractals if we're going to have a deck capable of winning, but we don't need aether pillars, and the lobotomizers have too much synergy not to bring.

[TimerClock14]

i think that maybe you should make that more flexable sky, cards are cards and once they become something other than empty, you can't get it back.

[Skydaemon]

i think that maybe you should make that more flexable sky, cards are cards and once they become something other than empty, you can't get it back.

I have no idea what that means.

[Skydaemon]

and are then Butterfly Effects too expensive?

Yeah.  It takes 5 to play and 3 to use, at 8 quanta for the first use, it's not fundable by novas.  The only entropy deck anyone offered was a stall deck.

Earth has cheaper means of destroying artifacts anyway, like pulverizers.  Even in rainbows later on, deflags are probably better (easily fundable through immolations or novas). 

[Demagog]

I don't really understand what you wrote lol...

I said that take out off-element pillars and replace with pendulums so that if we lose and salvage a couple cards we don't lose the entire deck.

Don't take out all, just a few. Maybe bump our pendulum count up to 40-45 ish

I don't see any point to that. We have the ability to convert things, and we hardly lose any cards in the first few rounds.

[$$$man]

I don't really understand what you wrote lol...

I said that take out off-element pillars and replace with pendulums so that if we lose and salvage a couple cards we don't lose the entire deck.

Don't take out all, just a few. Maybe bump our pendulum count up to 40-45 ish

I don't see any point to that. We have the ability to convert things, and we hardly lose any cards in the first few rounds.

Oh yeah, i forgot the conversion, never mind

[Demagog]

I have converted our 8 aether pillars into 6 stone pillars and 2 earth pendulums. This is round 1.

Edit: Also converted 2 miracles into stone pillars.

[$$$man]

UMM... why do we only have 8 pillars now?

[coinich]

Since the Vault's missing 64 cards, and I believe our decks used 72, that puts us at par if we assume the missing 64 cards are Earth Pillars.

[Skydaemon]

Since the Vault's missing 64 cards, and I believe our decks used 72, that puts us at par if we assume the missing 64 cards are Earth Pillars.

Exactly right.  We started with 64, dema added 8 more for a total of 72.

[TimerClock14]

i think that maybe you should make that more flexable sky, cards are cards and once they become something other than empty, you can't get it back.

I have no idea what that means.

you know what? I don't really remember what it means either. lol

[Demagog]

I'll update the vault in a bit.