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Round 5 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16045.msg205537#msg205537
« on: November 20, 2010, 09:14:18 pm »
Strategy discussion thread so that we don't overclutter the deckbuilding one.

This thread is linked to the Test Decks thread for the round, so look there to see the postings of the decks I figured most likely for each person to face.  The starter decks below are mostly designed to deal with the decks from that thread.

Note - deckbuilding will be considerably different this round.  We'll be fielding legal suicide decks.  So this round we're going to pick the fights we want to win, and focus on the best possible decks there.  The "win" decks we make (as opposed to the suicide decks), have to be capable of going the rest of the war untouched, so they need a bit of variety as well, and ideally should be uppable.

So, our first job is to decide what battles we're going to win.  Right now it looks like we'll try 5, maybe 6 at most., the other 3-4 will be suicide decks.

I think so far we're thinking:
WIN ATTEMPTS:
2x light
1x darkness
1x time
1x aether

SUICIDE DECKS:
3x death
1x fire

*** We are 9 pillars short of being able to make the below 5 decks even post-conversion.  Need to tweak our discards to make it happen.

Fights this round:
:earth Skydaemon - :light xdude *** general fight
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58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58r 58r 58r 58r 590 590 590 590 590 590 593 593 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rolight has:
2 fire stalls
1 earth stall
1 graboid phoenix rainbow
1 immo phoenix bow
1 water stall
2 others, maybe suicides?
They have a limited vault and most of their stuff is stall material.

Thinking RT deck for our light matchups.  The dragons are crucial for surviving their fire stalls.

 :earth TimerClock14 - :light Ryan666
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58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58r 58r 58r 58r 590 590 590 590 590 590 593 593 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rklight has:
2 fire stalls
1 earth stall
1 graboid/phoenix rainbow
1 immo phoenix bow
1 water stall
2 others, maybe suicides?
They have a limited vault and most of their stuff is stall material.

Thinking RT deck for our light matchups.  The dragons are crucial for surviving their fire stalls.

 :earth $$$man - :aether mrpaper
unsure if we'll field a deck here or not, might try a stall deck.  EAs to protect thorn shield and pillars.
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58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 592 592 592 594 594 594 594 594 594 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5bs 5c2 5c2 5c3 5c3 5c3 :earth coinich -  :death smuglapse - suicide, death probably gamble on 2nd best deck here, hand nothing again
 :earth Demagog -  :death Nume - suicide, death will expect our best deck here so hand them nothing
 :earth Legit - :death Corrum -
I think we have to suicide this too.  We just don't have the pillars to support another stall.
we can't break through their shields, so we'll surprise them with a stall, they're expecting 32 card limit, we'll give them 34
Not sure if we'll have the pillars for this, we'll rearrange salvage a bit and may end up suiciding this one too
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4vd 4vi 4vl 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58s 58s 58s 594 594 594 594 594 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa :earth Dreggs -  :fire majofa
I think we suicide this probably
 :earth Terroking -  :darkness plastiqe
Looking at something similar to this, with 3 upped steel golems and 3 upped lightning.
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4vi 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 55q 58q 58q 58q 58v 590 590 590 590 590 590 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5f6 5f6 5if 5og 5ur 61qDarkness appears to have:
1 graboid rainbow
2 devourer options
2-3 straight creature assaults dragons/gargoyles (leftovers from lots of losses with these)
they have a pack of RTs/eternity they can slip into a deck, but otherwise they're looking at scraps.  Other than their one and only graboid bow, they are pretty much looking at straight darkness decks, and probably at least 2 suicide decks.  Terro is their toughest fight by far.

Looking at their salvage, they may have salvaged enough to make a second rainbow, but they probably don't have graboids for the second.

I think darkness might be a good win attempt for us if we can beat their decks.  At the moment looking into using our rainbow here, but if we do it has to outrush their rainbow.

 :earth Korugar - :time Smokefree
Thinking dev denial.
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58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 591 591 591 591 591 591 593 593 593 593 593 595 5aa 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5uo 5upTime has:
1 devourer deck
1 rt phoenix deck
1 fractal scarab deck
1 dim shield lightning multi-anubis deck
1 poison/bonewall deck

lieutenants:
:water nilsieboy
:time dragoon
:light implosion
:life Gl1tch
:gravity jumbalumba
:fire jmdt
:entropy Amilir
:death Malduk
:darkness Kuroaitou
:air quantumT
:aether dragoon1140

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Re: Round 5 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16045.msg207139#msg207139
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2010, 10:49:26 pm »
These decks work and fit into our vault, i'm just posting them here so we have them stored in someplace other than chat:
Random Rainbow
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 55q 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58q 58q 58q 590 590 590 590 590 590 591 5c2 5f6 5f6 5if 5lg 5lg 5og 61qTurbo Dragons
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