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Round 1 EC discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65039.msg1269772#msg1269772
« on: October 18, 2017, 04:06:10 am »
For the event card, we choose to either ban 2 cards or take +2 upgrades on all decks.  At first I was thinking the bans were a no-brainer, but we have to pick the same 2 bans for all of our opponents, i.e. I don't think we can custom tailor our bans to each team.  We could, however, keep our bans focused on one or two opponents (like, say, name shard of freedom and fractal) and just hope for incidental damage to the other opponents.  On the other hand, we can just take more upgrades and not try to guess what our opponents might do.

I'm pretty confident that as a team we can work out bans that are smarter than the opponents and adjust to the mini-meta accordingly, but two upgrades is fairly significant as well, especially if they can be altered midmatch.  I vote that we use bans for round 1.

Suggested bans:
-WINGS.  Wings is pretty good against earth, and we'd force team Air into a more narrow mindset for deckbuilding, probably some sort of rush, and then we could try to counter accordingly
-DIMSHIELD.  Kind of the same thing except vs Aether
-FRACTAL.  More of an all around good ban vs all teams, but especially aether.
-BONE WALL.  This would pretty much target death (duh) and aether in the form of bonebolt, and we could prepare accordingly.  Our best PC, pulverizer, also sucks against bone wall, but is very good against wings or dimshields.
-SHARD OF FREEDOM.  Stuffs Air pretty hard, but due to SoFr cost, they might not have that many in vault, and might not point them at us.  Probably not as strong as other choices.  They're pretty deadly if they ARE aimed at us, though.  Plus, nobody else will be using them.
-pillars/pendulums.  No idea if we're allowed to ban these, but holy crap, we could screw a couple teams, lol.  Sending a PM to Zawadx, but I suspect they'll disallow it.

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Re: Round 1 EC discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65039.msg1269773#msg1269773
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2017, 04:08:20 am »
Oh, I should add, I guess, my top two ban votes are for BONE WALL and then probably FRACTAL.  Pulverizer can poop on the rest of the stuff I listed.  In the event that we can actually ban quanta cards, I want air pillar and aether pillar.

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Re: Round 1 EC discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65039.msg1269814#msg1269814
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Re: Round 1 EC discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65039.msg1269816#msg1269816
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2017, 08:35:05 pm »
Good idea with starting a thread!!

I'm in favor of using the baning. Now when the minimum upgrades are 8, another 2 upgrades isn't as significant as it was a few years ago.

Both :aether and :gravity likes to fractal us due to immortal. Therefore I think it's given.

The next card is a bit more tricky.  :death should be a fairly easy win anyways due to Gen role. So no super need to use baning here even if I agree bonewall definitely would be a good pick and probably secure a win here.
That leaves us with :air. Wings and sofree are the best choices I can think of. By looking at the deck choices I would prefer sofree this time. Also because we can only ban a card ones. Wings might be good to use vs a different element than :air, if we don't meet them again will say.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2017, 08:47:10 pm by Blacksmith »
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Re: Round 1 EC discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65039.msg1269817#msg1269817
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2017, 11:34:06 pm »
Good point on the general vs death thing; I didn't take that into account, although I had thought that maybe aether could field bonebolt.  Wings and Fractal are probably smarter choices, then.  (edit: WM ruling is no bans on nonvault cards, so no banning pillars/etc)

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Re: Round 1 EC discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65039.msg1270088#msg1270088
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2017, 05:58:38 pm »

 :darkness :entropy :life :time

Nova is one card to choose.

Darkness got a very annoying voodoo doll deck that uses novas. Entropy also likes to play novas. the downside is that we don't get to salvage any novas.

Otherwise I don't think there are so many good choices?

Sog, etirnity, discord, lychantropes is secondary choices.


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