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R5 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9136.msg107682#msg107682
« on: July 04, 2010, 04:49:20 pm »
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Re: R5 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9136.msg108729#msg108729
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2010, 02:45:27 am »
For the Light matchups, I propose we use these two decks:

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With this deck, Stone Skins can counter UG and Ice/Fire Bolt stall decks, EA counters Deflagration and Earthquake, and then finally the Fractals should be able to finish it off, unless they're running Phase Shields as well.

The second deck, I think should look like this:

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Or something like. Or, because we pretty much know that at least one of the decks will be Earth/Light (They've been hit by the denial deck twice, probably going to want some EAs in whatever they use) we could try using a Golem rush, to kill before they set up whatever they want to set up.Golem rush is probably more versatile though, since I'm sure they've got another Dim Shield deck hidden, there were 3 decks they could have salvaged them from, as well as the Aether Pillars.

So, something similar to:

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Could be good as well. I debated over splashing cards, and found that, because most of Light's remaining decks are creatureless (Or just big stall decks) a Fog shield is really our best option. If we had a Reflective one, I'd put it in. An Arsenic would be viable too, but if we lose it, the :earth/ :death deck takes a very heavy hit. The best other alternative there would be Vamp Stiletto, which we don't have. Druidic Staff is an option, but i don't think it's worth the spot it takes in most deck-to-deck matchups. (Ofc, we could just send it up to 31 cards, since it would help tremendously in reducing the flying Glory damage, especially if Fog Shield came out with it)
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Re: R5 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9136.msg108761#msg108761
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2010, 03:37:31 am »
Ya I was thinking I'd use an immolation deck. Puppy is against entropy, so perhaps he should take a flying glory deck? An immolation deck would also probably be good in the time match... dunno what we should take against fire.

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Re: R5 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9136.msg108776#msg108776
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2010, 04:07:21 am »
I was thinking to use the  :gravity/ :earth duo, the one with plated oty's and add some enchants for the pulvy's.

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Re: R5 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9136.msg109045#msg109045
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2010, 03:37:13 pm »
So I looked at entropy's decks last round (may not have seen them all though) and saw a few entropy/darkness decks, and a dragon deck with quints and a couple antimatters. I wouldn't be surprised if Entropy used EQ's on Puppy, since they can salvage them.

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Re: R5 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9136.msg109093#msg109093
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2010, 04:40:37 pm »
I was thinking to use the  :gravity/ :earth duo, the one with plated oty's and add some enchants for the pulvy's.
I dunno, I think that's too vulnerable to direct damage/ their quinted Fire Spirit deck. Even though you could break the shields, it has very little offensive power.

Well, during our last match with them, they lost to our Phase Shield stall deck. That makes me think that they'll use an Golem rush with Momentum for at least one of the decks (And probably pack RoF too), but they shouldn't be able to for both due to losing 12 of their Immolations (And 12 of their Golems) and I don't believe they've had the opportunity to Salvage any either.

The problem is that I'm pretty sure another deck will be their quinted Spirits (Although they do have a match against Light this round, it would find it hard to deal with their SS/Miracle deck with the Earthquakes, as well as their Ice Bolt Miracle stall deck, because of the shields. Granted, they could just take multiple Deflags to cover that, but I doubt it. It's also a pretty poor matchup against Entropy, as they have at least 2 :entropy/ :darkness decks left, so Steals will be expected) They do have a Poison deck with Bolts, a large-pillar deck with Dragons, Bolts, and Fahrenhiet, a Phoenix/Golem Immolation deck, and probably others that I haven't taken a look at or they haven't shown.

They did lose a big  :earth/ :fire deck though, so I don't think we should be expecting EAs (But they could very well be there)

So, one of those decks I listed against Light should probably be taken and used here, but I'd recommend taking at least a Mind Flayer (We've got it) addition if we choose to use the Immolation one.

For the Time deck, we're pretty sure they're going to be forced to use :time/ :darkness with Devourers, but they could also use the 5 EQs we gave them last round. Either way, I think that using our :earth/ :gravity oty/Plate Armor deck is the best option, since it should enable us to control out the Dragons that will surely be :time's only offense. We don't need to take Gravity Shield there, because both Time and Darkness Dragons are 10/5, but that makes them edible by 1 Armored Otyugh.

So, because they have no shields or permanents to make Pulvy and Momentum effective:

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Re: R5 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9136.msg109223#msg109223
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2010, 07:38:34 pm »
Terro, we have 9 EQ's, so I think we should take one out of that gravity deck and put in the fifth golem.

That would leave 2 or 3 for the immolation deck I'd use, and 3 or 4 for one other deck.

I think Puppy should take the flying glory deck. Would it be a good idea to add some EA's? They may have salvaged EQ's last round. Although, they also have discords, which would really hurt the glory deck, so maybe an immolation deck instead? That would counter EQ's and discords... I don't think they have many antimatters left... even if they do I doubt they'd use many, if any, since they might suspect us to use either the poison deck or the glory deck.

As for the fire matches.... one person could take a flying glory deck, since we have the cards for two (if puppy were to use one)... if he doesn't then we could even use two flying glory decks for these matches... I don't know if the poison stall would do well or not... maybe a shrieker rush with RT's?

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Re: R5 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9136.msg109227#msg109227
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2010, 07:42:58 pm »
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Re: R5 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9136.msg109229#msg109229
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2010, 07:47:31 pm »
No you couldn't. We don't have enough EQ's. There's only enough for someone else to take either 3 or 4. I'd say you should replace 3 EQ's with 2 shriekers and an RT.

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Re: R5 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9136.msg109230#msg109230
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2010, 07:48:27 pm »
No you couldn't. We don't have enough EQ's. There's only enough for someone else to take either 3 or 4. I'd say you should replace 3 EQ's with 2 shriekers and an RT.
better?

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Re: R5 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9136.msg109242#msg109242
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2010, 07:58:56 pm »
No you couldn't. We don't have enough EQ's. There's only enough for someone else to take either 3 or 4. I'd say you should replace 3 EQ's with 2 shriekers and an RT.
better?
you sure that mark is enough for both Evolving and RTs?

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Re: R5 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9136.msg109251#msg109251
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2010, 08:02:46 pm »
No you couldn't. We don't have enough EQ's. There's only enough for someone else to take either 3 or 4. I'd say you should replace 3 EQ's with 2 shriekers and an RT.
better?
you sure that mark is enough for both Evolving and RTs?
it worked for puppy in R2

 

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