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R4 Salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9087.msg107121#msg107121
« on: July 03, 2010, 08:12:08 pm »
As usual, marks are of the element that lost.

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Re: R4 Salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9087.msg107135#msg107135
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2010, 08:27:01 pm »
Deck 1: If we take 4 immolations and two golems, we might be able to make another immolation deck (see below). There'd be 8 golems and 10 immolations in our vault. The graboid looks tempting, but we have 15...

Deck 2: 4 oty's and 2 momentums and we could piece together another earth/gravity deck. (see below)

Deck 3: 2 blessings, then 4 photons. If we had to we could splash light in an oty deck to buff... We really don't need any more glories.

Deck 4: 4 gravity pillars so we can have enough for a second gravity deck (we have 10 right now), and then a lightning (for an immolation deck) and a gravity shield.


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If we take the above cards, here are the decks we can make, or variations of them:

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Here are some gravity decks:

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55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55p 55q 55r 55r 55r 55r 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58q 58q 58s 58t 58t 58v 58v 591 591 592 592Note that we're limited by vault losses. These decks would be a lot better if we had more than 4 plate armors. You could also add another momentum to both if we only used one immolation deck, or took the momentums out of one immolation deck and put in another deflag and something else. We only have 3 deflags so those can't be spread around much.

We can also make two of these:

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Re: R4 Salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9087.msg107981#msg107981
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2010, 12:04:43 am »
Deck 1: Agree with Dema on this one, 4 Immos, 2 Golems.

Deck 2: Why don't we take 4 Otys, 1 Grav Pillar, and 1 Momentum? They aren't really very necessary, unless you think you may run into Phase Shields/some other devastating shield.

Deck 3: Not all that much to benefit from here, but I don't see Photons going to any use other than for Immolation (That's a good use, but . . . ) and I think maybe making a 3rd (:o) Glory deck would at least surprise some people, and still be a good thing to have. Therefore, 2 Glories (Also enables us to use 4-5 Glories in one version if we must) and 4 Pillars is my idea.

Deck 4: Agree with Dema again, 4 Grav Pillars, 1 Grav Shield (We need some more of these, very useful in the :earth/ :gravity) and 1 Lightnings.
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Re: R4 Salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9087.msg107990#msg107990
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2010, 12:17:09 am »
Terro without 4 photons we can't make a second immolation deck. We only have 6 gnome riders. We have to split them up if we want a second immolation deck.

Unless you think we don't need another...

I don't know if we'd be able to make a third glory deck... we'd need another flying weapon, at least 7 more light pillars, three more miracles, and 3 glories (1 if we took two glories from the third deck). It's kind of a long shot in my opinion... plus we have two light matches in R5, so I'm sure we could get at least 3 miracles, 8 light towers, and 1 glory from those. We might even get a flying weapon from one of these games (not just the light ones).

So ya, basically I just think 4 photons would help us more in this round than 4 light pillars would.

BTW, we have just under 180 earth cards left, which means that if we don't salvage any more, we can only lose 11 times.

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Re: R4 Salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9087.msg109804#msg109804
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2010, 04:12:51 pm »
I guess we'll go with Terro's suggestions...

Deck 1: 4 immolations, 2 golems

Deck 2: 4 otyughs, 1 gravity pillar, 1 momentum

Deck 3: 2 morning glories, 4 light pillars

Deck 4: 4 gravity pillars, 1 gravity shield, 1 lightning

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Re: R4 Salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9087.msg109823#msg109823
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2010, 04:54:16 pm »
After thinking it over, Fire will almost definitely get second, meaning we're going to have quite a few more matches against them in the future. There, I feel a Golem deck will help more than a Glory one, so I think the Photons are a better option (I don't think they have much use as of yet, because if we do take 2 Immolation decks, they are both a bit strewn, and I'd rather have 1 well-built one.

Final choices:

Deck 1: 4 immolations, 2 golems

Deck 2: 4 otyughs, 1 gravity pillar, 1 momentum

Deck 3: 2 morning glories, 4 Photons

Deck 4: 4 gravity pillars, 1 gravity shield, 1 lightning
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Re: R4 Salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9087.msg109827#msg109827
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2010, 05:03:19 pm »
Ok Terro I'll fix the vault.

 

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