Shard Golem | Shard Golem

[dracomageat]

Golem costs 8 now? Why? It's not as if fractal golems was good.

[Wolfunit]

Is anyone going to update the original post with the correct costing cost?

[eaglgenes101]

Golem costs 8 now? Why? It's not as if fractal golems was good.

8 shards in hand = epic golem

[Taffer]

I like the idea, but...

I did some testing in the trainer and Shard Golem seems to be very UP. Sacrificing 3+ valuable cards for a creature with about 10 damage/HP is far too expensive. Not mentioning that the creature can be easily cancelled. For example 1 SoI + 2 SoD (all upped) generates you a 8/11 golem with a poor "heal" ability. I think a single SoD alone worths more in most cases. Waiting for even more shards to come together is usually a nonsense against a typical arena deck that can kill you in 6-7 turns.

I would suggest the following buffs:

• More attack/HP when combined with non-SoI shards
• Skills boost: Skill 4+ is practically unreachable due to reasons above. I would eliminate many "holes" in the table.
• I would somehow allow to select shards to sacrifice when play a SoI.
• I would somehow allow to combine an already existing Golem with shards in your hand.
• 8 earth quanta seems to be too expensive even in an earth deck. Eternity/rewind can completely cancel the deck. If someone tries to use golems in a fractal/mitosis deck, then this deck cannot contain too many shards due to aether/life/earth quanta need so spamming RoLs/ball lightnings/pests/whatever is still a better idea. Maybe 5-6 earth quanta would be enough.

[Mathematistic]

8 earth quanta seems to be too expensive even in an earth deck. Eternity/rewind can completely cancel the deck. If someone tries to use golems in a fractal/mitosis deck, then this deck cannot contain too many shards due to aether/life/earth quanta need so spamming RoLs/ball lightnings/pests/whatever is still a better idea. Maybe 5-6 earth quanta would be enough.

But any lower than the fractal problem arises. See the original 5/4.
7/6 doesn't solve rewind problem, either.

[burne]

In another hand, its quanta cheapness make it very fast to show up.

A massive creature on the first turn is one of it's use.

Seems not UP at all to me.

[OldTrees]

I like the idea, but...

I did some testing in the trainer and Shard Golem seems to be very UP. Sacrificing 3+ valuable cards for a creature with about 10 damage/HP is far too expensive. Not mentioning that the creature can be easily cancelled. For example 1 SoI + 2 SoD (all upped) generates you a 8/11 golem with a poor "heal" ability. I think a single SoD alone worths more in most cases. Waiting for even more shards to come together is usually a nonsense against a typical arena deck that can kill you in 6-7 turns.

I would suggest the following buffs:

• More attack/HP when combined with non-SoI shards
• Skills boost: Skill 4+ is practically unreachable due to reasons above. I would eliminate many "holes" in the table.
• I would somehow allow to select shards to sacrifice when play a SoI.
• I would somehow allow to combine an already existing Golem with shards in your hand.
• 8 earth quanta seems to be too expensive even in an earth deck. Eternity/rewind can completely cancel the deck. If someone tries to use golems in a fractal/mitosis deck, then this deck cannot contain too many shards due to aether/life/earth quanta need so spamming RoLs/ball lightnings/pests/whatever is still a better idea. Maybe 5-6 earth quanta would be enough.

Yes you got a weak heal ability. But you recieved an 8|11 for merely 4 + 3 cards + 3 upgrades. Stone Dragon is an 8|10 that costs 10 + 1 card.
For 1 more Shard of Divinity you would have paid 4 + 4 cards + 4 upgrades for an 11|14. Basalt Dragon is a 10|12 for 12 + 1 card + 1 upgrade.

[Taffer]

Yes you got a weak heal ability. But you recieved an 8|11 for merely 4 + 3 cards + 3 upgrades. Stone Dragon is an 8|10 that costs 10 + 1 card.

Do not forget that "+ 3 cards" is a big cost. Death of complicated decks is waiting for the needed combination. Stone/Basalt Dragon costs 10/12 but requires a single card only.

For 1 more Shard of Divinity you would have paid 4 + 4 cards + 4 upgrades for an 11|14. Basalt Dragon is a 10|12 for 12 + 1 card + 1 upgrade.

This "just 1 more xy card" sometimes means to flip through the half of your deck. Too slow -> expensive.

As for the fractal/mitosis, I did less testing but I experienced that for example an Elite Charger - Fractal deck is much more powerful than a golem deck. And charger is a single card for 5  that provides 7 attack with momentum... But I keep testing.

You can utilize the many shards combination in a shard-only deck (= 6 SoI + many-many random shards,  ). Other cards just slow you down and raises the chance of many non-shard cards in your hand. Its obvious that the card must not be OP but such a deck is below average at the best (but again, I keep testing).

At least the following "buffs" would be much required: 

• I would somehow allow to select shards to sacrifice when playing a SoI.
• I would somehow allow to combine an already existing Golem with shards in your hand.

[OldTrees]

Yes you got a weak heal ability. But you recieved an 8|11 for merely 4 + 3 cards + 3 upgrades. Stone Dragon is an 8|10 that costs 10 + 1 card.

Do not forget that "+ 3 cards" is a big cost. Death of complicated decks is waiting for the needed combination. Stone/Basalt Dragon costs 10/12 but requires a single card only.

Yes, additional cards are an additional cost. However you might be overestimating that cost. Quantify your assumptions for comparisons.

Generic Example:
W = [4 ~= 1.667]
X = = 1
Y = cards
Z = upgrades ~= 1.5
4W + 3Y + 3Z vs 10X + 1 Y
4W + 2Y + 3Z vs 10X
1.667 + 2Y + 3(1.667) vs 10(1)
1.667 + 2Y + 4.5 vs 10
2Y vs 3.833
Is 1 card roughly equivalent to 2 ?

• I would somehow allow to select shards to sacrifice when playing a SoI.
• I would somehow allow to combine an already existing Golem with shards in your hand.

I agree that buffs in versatility are beneficial even if the card's magnitude were balanced.

[The Chosen One]

best new card in my opinion

[Essence]

Is 1 card roughly equivalent to 2 ?

No. It's roughly equivalent to 1 quanta of each color.


Also, no fortune needed here because this card isn't spinnable, correct?

[OldTrees]

Is 1 card roughly equivalent to 2 ?

No. It's roughly equivalent to 1 quanta of each color.


Also, no fortune needed here because this card isn't spinnable, correct?

1) For 1 card you can get 1 attack OR 1 elemental quanta per turn
2) For 1 card + 1 quanta you can get 1 attack AND 1 elemental quanta per turn
1+2->3) For 1 card + 1 quanta you can get 2 attack
1+3->4) A cost of +1 card = A cost of +1 quanta
Sources:
Photon, Pillar, Dragonfly, Ash Eater