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Re: Wise Scorpions [Duo][FGs] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45339.msg1068060#msg1068060
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2013, 09:31:17 am »
Yes, it's been dead for a long time. Using the FGei tool will seem a bit complicated to the average internet user, yes, but you don't have to. We had a lot of testers when kirch left the community, and it all just kind of died with him and new patches. It was too much work to keep it updated without someone to spearhead the entire thing. Furthermore, we had stats for all the best decks, both unupped and upped, so a lot of members were pleased and content with the outcome of the project.

However, our Deck Helper is looking for people to revive it :>
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Re: Wise Scorpions [Duo][FGs] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45339.msg1068098#msg1068098
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2013, 12:25:53 pm »
Calindu and Aneninen , i didn't know the poison stopped after doing spell damage. I tried it now.
i figured out that dune scorpions against false gods are powerfull since they play a lot of cards.

the point of the 3 card combo i still want to argue:
technically it's still a 2 card combo. the Quint is just an add on, you can use it before and after playing the SoW.
playing it before the SoW makes spell damage wich stops the extra poison(which i know now).
playing it after(still the two card combo) will make the scorpion immortal, which keeps doing normal damage(poison still keeps stakking). but the add on for being immortal, this could lead to a better winning rate against some false gods.
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Re: Wise Scorpions [Duo][FGs] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45339.msg1068113#msg1068113
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2013, 12:52:14 pm »
Higurashi: if using the FGei has been too complicated we shall need another, less difficult system. I'm unsure about it yet but, it should include the major factors of winnig/losing and something about the gameplay time too. Nevertheless, in my opinion the biggest problem with FGei was that the system would work perfectly if much more games were made. In another words, even after 725 games I was unsure how the Wise Scorpions worked against certain Fake Gods. (Guess what, after 200 games against Paradox it performed 0% – only one single match played and I lost it beause she had cloned an overbuffed Creature before I drew a Shield!)
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Acab Jef: sure, an addition to an already existing combo gives some advantage. On the other hand, each (type of) cards added lowers the chance for drawing all the others. Even if it appears to be a small change on a long term it matters a lot!
(A well-known example: the game Roulette is beneficial to the casinos because there is at least one 0 field on the wheel. When you bet "red", you can have the double of your money. But, the chance for a red number is not 1:2, it's only 18:37 which is about 48,65% (one 0 included). Not a big deal if you play once but, in 100 games bidding $1 each time you'll have $97 and 30 cents on average, not $100! The similar theory lies behind the deck-building as well.)
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Re: Wise Scorpions [Duo][FGs] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45339.msg1068120#msg1068120
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2013, 01:13:14 pm »
Acab Jef: sure, an addition to an already existing combo gives some advantage. On the other hand, each (type of) cards added lowers the chance for drawing all the others. Even if it appears to be a small change on a long term it matters a lot!

yes that is true , but if you play with the deck with extra cards the chances of your combo are lower, but chances of winning are higher.
so lets say: bad hand because(and lose) of extra cards 1/25 games? and extra wins (1,5/25 games).
there is still profit(0,5/25 games), which are 24 more wins games in your 600 games test(thats maybe 8 upped cards extra). but i geuss the extra wins/loses are really determined by the RNG.

PS. don't compare EtG with roulette, thats a whole other game wich i enjoy a lot. there are strategies to have higher win chances (in a long time).
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Re: Wise Scorpions [Duo][FGs] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45339.msg1069080#msg1069080
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2013, 02:29:10 am »
Acab Jef: sure, an addition to an already existing combo gives some advantage. On the other hand, each (type of) cards added lowers the chance for drawing all the others. Even if it appears to be a small change on a long term it matters a lot!

yes that is true , but if you play with the deck with extra cards the chances of your combo are lower, but chances of winning are higher.
so lets say: bad hand because(and lose) of extra cards 1/25 games? and extra wins (1,5/25 games).
there is still profit(0,5/25 games), which are 24 more wins games in your 600 games test(thats maybe 8 upped cards extra). but i geuss the extra wins/loses are really determined by the RNG.

PS. don't compare EtG with roulette, thats a whole other game wich i enjoy a lot. there are strategies to have higher win chances (in a long time).
What do you mean strategies? The best I can think of is to spectate the wheel a lot and see which numbers are most common. Casinos tend to kick you out if you win a lot, though.
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Re: Wise Scorpions [Duo][FGs] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45339.msg1069221#msg1069221
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2013, 01:51:33 pm »
PS. don't compare EtG with roulette, thats a whole other game wich i enjoy a lot. there are strategies to have higher win chances (in a long time).
What do you mean strategies? The best I can think of is to spectate the wheel a lot and see which numbers are most common. Casinos tend to kick you out if you win a lot, though.

if they do that , the casino is cheating. it is legal to win? a casino should not kick you out, they still make profit by other people, the wheel doesn't spin if there are no other people.

your strategie (watching) is a strategie based on this. in regular situations there are like 20 numbers in 36 spins. if a number comes for the second time you could place your bet on that number for a while and you could make profit.

for roulette strategies google it. martingale, 7 number, and so on. there are still chances you lose it is very hard and you need a lot of money to make profit and a table without limits.
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Re: Wise Scorpions [Duo][FGs] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45339.msg1109364#msg1109364
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2013, 10:35:02 pm »
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Re: Wise Scorpions [Duo][FGs] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45339.msg1110148#msg1110148
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2013, 02:40:45 am »
This is the EXACT version of the deck I posted in kongregate chat a long long time ago, oh well. Idc since my brother came up with the idea back as soon as wisdoms came out. Its a good deck. Glad you posted it so it'd get more attention. If someone would help me become a deck helper, id do it
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Re: Wise Scorpions [Duo][FGs] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45339.msg1110151#msg1110151
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2013, 02:47:34 am »
This is the EXACT version of the deck I posted in kongregate chat a long long time ago, oh well. Idc since my brother came up with the idea back as soon as wisdoms came out.
This doesn't make sense, since when SoW came out it only worked on immortal creatures (and the resulting spell damage negates the neurotoxin ability). This thread was posted just four days after it was changed.

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Re: Wise Scorpions [Duo][FGs] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45339.msg1110152#msg1110152
« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2013, 02:50:04 am »
SoW has been changed for a long time I believe. Like at least 3 months.
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