V2 -- fire tweaked to max speed

[jmdt]

but you dont ever leave the BL out. im testing a version with photons and sometimes i just play them and leave them until i get a creamation

BL give you burst damage that can shave turns off your wins here and there there are a lot of time you can get a 4 or 5 turn win by using that BL for the extra damage that a RoL would not have allowed.

[TheCrazyMango]

ah ok thans for clearing that up. on another note im running a pretty fast mostly unupped version

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4t5 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fc 5fc 5fc 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 7dp 7ds 7ds 7dswith only phoenixes upped sometimes i didnt have enough quanta to play dragons, so i use unupped phoenixes.

[MrMojo]

I'm currently using a golem rush for t50 as well and I'm planning to make this deck.
Right now I've got 6 Cremations and 6 Destroyers.
What should my upgrade path be?

Btw I'll probably use a vamp dagger over that gavel

[hrmmm]

i recommend this upgrade path:
immolations -> phoenix -> pillars -> golems -> sparks -> weapon

well... the gavel has only 1 purpose in this deck: it aims for a 3 turn kill ^^
it can be easy replaced here.

btw. for t50 i recommend napalms tweak of this decktype:
Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11022.0.html)

[TheIdioticIdiot]

not exactly max speed, ruby dragons would the max speed...

[willng3]

not exactly max speed, ruby dragons would the max speed...

It's been tested and proven Crimson Dragons provide maximum speed already.

[jmdt]

not exactly max speed, ruby dragons would the max speed...

It's been tested and proven Crimson Dragons provide maximum speed already.

Yeah, hrmmm and I have tested 100's of games with various builds and atm we know of no way to make this deck any faster.  If we do find something faster, hrmmm will definately update the deck.

[hrmmm]

not exactly max speed, ruby dragons would the max speed...

agree with willing3 and jmdt.
ruby dragons do more dmg, but they also cost 2 firequantum more.
you can pull out the crimson dragons faster then rubys, due less quantum usage .

[Izzythemachine]

Why doesnt this deck use a vampire dagger instead of the gavel? I would think that a vampire dagger would be better. sure it does one less damage than the gavel, but that 6 healing really helps. And compared to the hammer, the unupped version is way better (cheaper, same attack, and some healing).

[jmdt]

Why doesnt this deck use a vampire dagger instead of the gavel? I would think that a vampire dagger would be better. sure it does one less damage than the gavel, but that 6 healing really helps. And compared to the hammer, the unupped version is way better (cheaper, same attack, and some healing).

Gavel is faster.  it can play off only 1 cremeation and does more damage.

[Izzythemachine]

i get it.  i didnt notice that the cost changed from the unupped to upped. anyways, for an unupped deck, the dagger is still better right?

[Flash fire]

here is the issue i have with this deck... it takes 3 cremations to get 2 crims out... it also takes 3 cremations to get 2 rubys out.... there for the speed goes to rubies....

3 cremations, 1 spark, 1 phoenix, 1 gavel and 2 rubies = 37 damage on turn 1 with 1 fire for the rebirth on next turn

3 cremations 1 spark, 1 poenix, gavel and 2 crims = 31 damage plus  5 for a golem or a rebirth

 with that said, its pretty hard to get such a starting hand