Unupped fg farmer! Liquid Antimatter 1.28

[Jenkar]

I think a phase shield would be more useful because dark mantle is not helpful when u only have about 5 hp...

With what quanta?

I know but Dark mantle is truly useless...

It isn't. Especially in a deck with large healing, it helps you survive the tidbit more needed.

Fine hows this. Phase Shield is more useful than Dark Mantle.

No. They have diferent uses.
Phase shield is to be used as a *vital* card. It's meant to build decks around, because for any deck with those in it, you have to have 4-6 copies (around 12-18 rounds without damage. That means you lose ability to have much offense in your deck, and therefore, you gain offense at the cost of speed.
Dusk shield is smaller defense, but more durable with less cards. In decks without much space for defense, it's a perfect fit.

[ninetyfools]

I think a phase shield would be more useful because dark mantle is not helpful when u only have about 5 hp...

With what quanta?

I know but Dark mantle is truly useless...

It isn't. Especially in a deck with large healing, it helps you survive the tidbit more needed.

Fine hows this. Phase Shield is more useful than Dark Mantle.

No. They have diferent uses.
Phase shield is to be used as a *vital* card. It's meant to build decks around, because for any deck with those in it, you have to have 4-6 copies (around 12-18 rounds without damage. That means you lose ability to have much offense in your deck, and therefore, you gain offense at the cost of speed.
Dusk shield is smaller defense, but more durable with less cards. In decks without much space for defense, it's a perfect fit.

fine now i understand

[bricht]

I think ive won about 5 times from 80 and my score is -900 

[Plantifant]

I think ive won about 5 times from 80 and my score is -900 

And that's why I don't use LA 

[nolf]

You were very unlucky (and possibly didn't count correctly?). Sure, there are a lot of autoquits and at least it usually becomes very clear quickly if you'll succeed or not but sometimes you should be on a roll and even win a few games in a row. I made some screenshots on the previous page and they were all from a short session, winning 5 out of just 10/12 games (not counting opponents I skipped, so may have really been 5 wins out of 20 games). There are definitely better (but upgraded) decks out there, but this one is nice and fast. Flay 'Em for example is cool, works surprisingly well with few upgrades, will certainly record more wins, but games tend to take forever.

[puri1]

Even after the update, this is still one of the best and by far the cheapest FG farmer I've used. If you would, indulge me in my story:

I used this a long time back and was frustrated that I kept losing against gods which were marked as easy. I won a few upped cards, but was disgusted by how long it took. I promptly sold them and made what I thought was the "best" FG farmer, a RoL-Hope deck. I stubbornly played that for a few months and managed to win a decent set of upped cards. However, I was surprised such a "good" deck didn't seem amazingly effective, but I chalked that up to how all FG decks worked. Finally, I came back to this one and realized it gave me just about as many wins unnupped as my steadily upped RoL deck was giving me, and more wins per hour since games are decided quite fast. Thus I realized two things: 1, that my "frustration" was simply me being an idiot without enough experience at playing, and 2, that even if a deck is popular on the forum (RoL), doesn't mean it is the "best". Just popular. The moral of the story for naysayers of this deck is that experience is a far more useful indicator of how this deck performs rather than a couple early hit-and-misses.

[zhangvict]

I've purchased this deck for around 1k, and after 2k more loss due to skips and lost matches, gained 5 upped cards, totaling a profit of 2k over 3 hours of grind time. Not including the original investment, it's 1k per hour for me, which is a lot better than 600 per hour for my mono darkness AI3 grinder. But my score has decreased from around 8000 to 2000 lolol, from level 20ish to 14.

[Jenkar]

I've purchased this deck for around 1k, and after 2k more loss due to skips and lost matches, gained 5 upped cards, totaling a profit of 2k over 3 hours of grind time. Not including the original investment, it's 1k per hour for me, which is a lot better than 600 per hour for my mono darkness AI3 grinder. But my score has decreased from around 8000 to 2000 lolol, from level 20ish to 14.

Yeah, this deck is a score killer. Totally worth it imo.

[nolf]

Not including the original investment, it's 1k per hour for me, which is a lot better than 600 per hour for my mono darkness AI3 grinder.

Are you using the skip guide provided here?

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25609.0.html

By only playing 11 of the 29 FGs and skipping the rest you should do even better. And if you have the money to upgrade - or grind until you find a - chaos power, include that in your deck. Still, your score will suffer. I'm now grinding with Flay 'Em (+1 purify), games take longer, but my score remains about the same.

[zhangvict]

Not including the original investment, it's 1k per hour for me, which is a lot better than 600 per hour for my mono darkness AI3 grinder.

Are you using the skip guide provided here?

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25609.0.html

By only playing 11 of the 29 FGs and skipping the rest you should do even better. And if you have the money to upgrade - or grind until you find a - chaos power, include that in your deck. Still, your score will suffer. I'm now grinding with Flay 'Em (+1 purify), games take longer, but my score remains about the same.

Wow thanks I never knew such useful data existed. No, I didn't specifically use the skip guide on that page, but I skipped the recomended skip gods anyway while I was playing. I think my low-ish income rate was more to do with bad luck and/or inexperience. This deck requires a lot of math and careful calculating. Anyway, I only used this deck for one day before switching to Limitless speed, which was sightly better for upped cards in my experience, but almost just as bad for score since you need to skip half the gods as well. After getting a few more upped cards, I am now using Instosis half-upped, which actually improves your score as you farm lol.

[nolf]

Yeah, I'm using Instosis two-thirds-upped as well now, great deck. Liquid Antimatter imho is the first FG grinder players should go for, because it doesn't require any rare or upped cards. For that, it's amazing. Downside is that your score suffers and your electrum, too, if you keep all the cards you win. With Flay 'Em your score will be ok, you win more often but games take longer. Instosis I guess is the current champ, high win percentage and fast games, so definitely switch to it once you have the cards.

[zarnath]

wow, this is amazing. i was frustrating with farming halfbloods, so i sold the 1 upped card i had spun to buy this deck, at the time thinking it was probably i bad idea. i have had the deck for 10 minutes, and have already 1 back my upped card PLUS another upped card. i do agree that it is an epic score killer though, but who cares about score?