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Re: Turbo-speed false god farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6546.msg94985#msg94985
« Reply #48 on: June 18, 2010, 10:50:12 am »
ferox? impossible? <chokes>

i find ferox very easy actually. i haven't lost to him in 4 or 5 games
im 2 - 1 against obliterator cos he's pretty easy if he doesn't get pulvy out early
eternal pheonix also isn't too bad cos he rarely gets his fire storm and when he does i usually hv lots of RoLs safe in hand

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Re: Turbo-speed false god farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6546.msg95077#msg95077
« Reply #49 on: June 18, 2010, 02:37:34 pm »
I've been using this deck myself lately, and to be frank... it kicks some serious ass.
I have made a slight change though, as I replaced a single Lobo with a light nymph, which has made dragons to be even more usefull.

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Re: Turbo-speed false god farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6546.msg99845#msg99845
« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2010, 08:11:14 am »
Best RoL/Hope guide ever. Thank you very much.

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Re: Turbo-speed false god farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6546.msg99935#msg99935
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2010, 12:18:17 pm »
this is a pretty good deck.  I thought about using one myself, but i never started building it.  Once you fractal the ray of lights and have hope out, you cant lose.
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Re: Turbo-speed false god farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6546.msg99970#msg99970
« Reply #52 on: June 24, 2010, 01:57:46 pm »
this is a pretty good deck.  I thought about using one myself, but i never started building it.  Once you fractal the ray of lights and have hope out, you cant lose.
Fire Storm and other mass creature control says you CAN lose.\
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Re: Turbo-speed false god farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6546.msg101751#msg101751
« Reply #53 on: June 26, 2010, 10:15:53 pm »
I'd just like to say that I've come across a pretty solid method for beating Neptune.  You have to get Electrocutor out semi-early to lobo his Squids, but other than that, it goes like this:

1) Fractal RoLs twice, hard and fast, getting as many as you can so you can build lots of :light before he puts out Flood.  Always keep a spare RoL in your hand just in case he manages to kill them all before you can Fractal again (never happened to me, but it could.)

2) Get Hope out ASAP, of course.

3) Even if Flood is out, put down the first Light Dragon you can Fractal, and Fractal it.  Keep the remaining Dragons in your hand.

4) (Assuming Flooding has come down by now) let him kill an RoL, and fill the space with a Dragon.  He'll leave the RoLs along for a few turns while he kills the Dragon.

5) Use those turns to build up :light quanta reserves, and keep replacing the Dragon whenever it dies.  Neptune will slowly lose HP over these turns assuming your Dragon doesn't get frozen by the Permafrost.  Even if he does, it's OK.

6) If Neptune kills RoLs while your Dragon is frozen, you might need to Fractal them again to keep plenty of backup in your hand.  You don't want your Hope (or :light production) to drop below 6 per turn.

7) He'll eventually put down an Arctic Dragon or two.  Just suck it up.  SoGs will eventually negate most or all of the damage.

8) Eventually, you'll blow through your reserve Dragons, but you'll also have 100+ :light quanta in reserve.  Fractal your last Dragon, and play them all regardless of the Flooding.  You should almost always do enough damage to finish Neptune off.


It's actually not hard at all once you get the hang of it.  :)
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Re: Turbo-speed false god farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6546.msg102031#msg102031
« Reply #54 on: June 27, 2010, 08:10:47 am »
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1) Fractal RoLs twice, hard and fast, getting as many as you can so you can build lots of :light before he puts out Flood.  Always keep a spare RoL in your hand just in case he manages to kill them all before you can Fractal again (never happened to me, but it could.)
To fractal quickly, twice, you'll need a very good starting hand (no electrocutors, exactly 2 fractals, RoL, 3+ towers, and of course 1 hope)

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3) Even if Flood is out, put down the first Light Dragon you can Fractal, and Fractal it.  Keep the remaining Dragons in your hand.
If you do have one. There are only two in the deck, if both are in the last 10 cards, you are basically doomed (common scenario, also drawing them early fills your hand and slows you down).

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7) He'll eventually put down an Arctic Dragon or two.  Just suck it up.  SoGs will eventually negate most or all of the damage.
Unfortunately, my final version doesn't use SoGs at all, so it doesn't. You die if there are arctic dragons out.

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5) Use those turns to build up :light quanta reserves, and keep replacing the Dragon whenever it dies.  Neptune will slowly lose HP over these turns assuming your Dragon doesn't get frozen by the Permafrost.  Even if he does, it's OK.
Usually it does get frozen...from arctic squids as well as permafrost. If RoLs are also frozen, you get almost no light quanta from them.

Overall I'd say Neptune can be beaten (I won my first game, but barely), but the chance for failure is way too high, so if you want to minimize time losses, it's best to skip.

A larger deck (32-35 cards), with many shards has a much better chance, but still less than what I'd consider worth spending time on when speed farming.

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Re: Turbo-speed false god farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6546.msg102062#msg102062
« Reply #55 on: June 27, 2010, 10:02:21 am »
why turbo speed? it isn't that fast it actually takes quite long time before you can crush the enemy with golden dragons

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Re: Turbo-speed false god farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6546.msg102104#msg102104
« Reply #56 on: June 27, 2010, 11:30:34 am »
why turbo speed? it isn't that fast it actually takes quite long time before you can crush the enemy with golden dragons
Because its an only 30 card deck.
faster than most FG grinders and if you lose you lose quick
if you win, you win in about 2-3 minutes, thats why its called quick.
As a normal FG battle takes like 5-6 minutes

or if you use smaller rainbows (like puppy's) the match takes like 4-5 minutes, but you can lose at the end by a deckout. Here its almost guarateed that you either lose quick, or win quick..
thas why its called turbo.

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Re: Turbo-speed false god farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6546.msg102166#msg102166
« Reply #57 on: June 27, 2010, 02:25:56 pm »
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nfortunately, my final version doesn't use SoGs at all, so it doesn't. You die if there are arctic dragons out.
Then you should consider posting your final version, because the version shown in the OP still has one. 
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Re: Turbo-speed false god farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6546.msg102194#msg102194
« Reply #58 on: June 27, 2010, 03:08:09 pm »
I will. Actually sometimes I still have that one in, but usually I replace it with an additional tower, because most losses come from not enough quanta in time.

I'll also move Rainbow to another section.
I don't know if my luck is bad, or the AI, or his deck is changed, but even though I play one more tower, I lost a considerable number of games due to all of my towers being blown up and ending up too slow. He also is very time consuming to beat, and the chance to win a card isn't that good either.

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Re: Turbo-speed false god farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6546.msg106802#msg106802
« Reply #59 on: July 03, 2010, 05:42:18 am »
No miracle?

 

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