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The Siren Deck (water/entropy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60596.msg1216280#msg1216280
« on: November 25, 2015, 09:21:49 pm »
This deck has surpassed my expectations.
It has won 25 times in a row in bronze.
Won every game in silver I've played it in (like 5 or 6, I forget how many).
And its record for the first 20 games I've played it in gold is 14 wins and 6 loses.

The Siren Deck

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The main synergy I played off of was SoSer and Nymph's tears. If your shard generates creatures then you have more damage plus possible abilities, permanents have similar bonuses and spells give you amazing stopping power, but if you draw a random tower for an element that you have no use of then it's just a waste of a card. Nymph's tears takes that negative and turns it into a positive.

This deck also doesn't as much rely on sheer speed but instead almost responds to your opponent's speed thanks to desiccation. It does lack permanent control but normally makes up for it in its nasty shutdowns thanks to antimatter and the impressive range of things it can pull off.

Let me know what you think. Also a special thanks to both ddevans96 and Aves for helping me out in the deck help section of this forum.
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Re: The Siren Deck (water/entropy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60596.msg1216675#msg1216675
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2015, 01:34:35 pm »
It's a lot of fun but feels a little :entropy hungry. Possibly drop a SoSe?
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Re: The Siren Deck (water/entropy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60596.msg1216676#msg1216676
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2015, 01:41:30 pm »
Looks fun. Not massively effective but a nice take on rainbow nymphs.
If you have them, this is a situation where Nymph Queens are better than Tears, cause they are nymph on a stick.
Also, those Pillars should really be pendulums imo.
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Re: The Siren Deck (water/entropy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60596.msg1216769#msg1216769
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2015, 03:28:51 pm »
JonathanCrazyJ, I find that between my mark, supernovas, desiccation, and quantum towers that I generate plenty of water quanta. The problem with going to pendulums is just like what UndeadSpider1990 said, " :entropy Hungry." On that note.

I find their is this weird synergy between 6 supernovas and 4 SoSer. You get just about enough quanta from the 6 supernovas to be able to play all cards generated from 4 SoSer. Any more SoSer and you risk pulling too much of one element and having wasted cards. On the flip side I find it can take having at least 4 SoSer in a deck that doesn't already have a broad spectrum of stable cards, (elite otyugh, arctic squid, pulvy...), to draw an effective combination of cards. So I normally throw 4 SoSer in any deck in which I'm not focusing on them or I don't have a broad enough coverage without them.

All that aside, I am considering dropping one SoSer. I ask you though, "What would I replace with it?"... Another Tower, a 6th Nymph's tears, a reliable form of pc like pulvy? Tell me if you have any suggestions, I welcome advice. So far I find it's biggest counter is Mono-Aether, which is weird since its been so long since I've made a deck that was so heavily countered by it. I guess I just forgot how annoying that element is... oh well time to go back to decks that exclusively destroy mono-aether out of spite for it. But I'm getting off topic, If you can come up with a change to the deck that noticeably reduces the threat of mono-aether I would love to hear it. 

Also as a final note; a little trick I found since I normally use this as a gold arena farmer. The CPU is much less likely to kill your amethyst nymph if you antimatter it. The CPU will see it as a healing source and, I have found, will often times leave it alone. This is especially true if it has other targets and 1 untouched amethyst nymph can win a game. Of course AOE is AOE.
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Re: The Siren Deck (water/entropy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60596.msg1216792#msg1216792
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2015, 04:53:58 pm »
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Re: The Siren Deck (water/entropy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60596.msg1216793#msg1216793
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2015, 04:57:11 pm »
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Re: The Siren Deck (water/entropy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60596.msg1216798#msg1216798
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2015, 05:42:23 pm »
haha, man I like aether. I like entropy more and I would rather use mind flayer/ulitharid over lobo, also I'm not a big phase shield user, but ball lightning, thunderbolt and twin universe are all cool cards. I mean I use a frakenshard deck for god sakes, I have to like aether somewhat. In all honesty mono-aether is not hard to counter it's just frustrating when you play one and you realize you have no counter and have to rely on having better draws, really that they don't continue to draw shields, use up their available thunderbolts on non-important creatures, don't lobo everything you play before you can use their abilities and don't draw too many SoW; but that's all. I do find poisondials, ghostmare, fire control decks, and certain mono-water decks all more frustrating though and that stupid dark/entropy level 3 voodoo doll deck; I mean I know I'm going to win but it's still the most frustrating level 3 deck.
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Re: The Siren Deck (water/entropy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60596.msg1216825#msg1216825
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2015, 10:55:10 pm »
It's an essential Level 3 deck though ^_^ To remind us that chumpy shields are out there :P
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Re: The Siren Deck (water/entropy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60596.msg1216833#msg1216833
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2015, 11:59:28 pm »
part of me dies inside every time I lose to it. I think this deck, in its early stages, has lost to it; take out the shards and add improved mutations and the deck tanks hard(no I don't mean it can absorb a lot of damage. I mean it fails in the presence of an average amount of cc).
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Re: The Siren Deck (water/entropy) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60596.msg1216859#msg1216859
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2015, 12:28:38 pm »
part of me dies inside every time I lose to it. I think this deck, in its early stages, has lost to it; take out the shards and add improved mutations and the deck tanks hard(no I don't mean it can absorb a lot of damage. I mean it fails in the presence of an average amount of cc).

How about -2 Dessication +2 Quint??
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