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The Melancholy Death of Chrysaora (for Malignant Cell) [FG][OTK][water][death] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48843.msg1064602#msg1064602
« on: April 27, 2013, 11:48:43 pm »
Very high win rate against FG. Too lazy to count, but I think it's about 80%.  It's very fast too. With 4 sacrifice cards (chrysaoras), 3 Aflatoxins and 3 Shards of Patience in a very small deck (30 cards), you may often get all necessary ingredients in the first 1-3 rounds!

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This deck is similar to Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage and The Brave Malignant Ball That Could, but I guess it is a bit more reliable because it is smaller and rely solely on death quantas (have no problem with water quantas at all).

I must admit, though, that I'm rather new to playing against FGs. My tests are not very intensive yet. All suggestions and independent tests are welcome.

Strategy:
Quite simple.

1. Start with chrysaoras (not upgraded; otherwise they could be affected by a FG's shield such as frozen. And funny enough, in my experience, un-upgraded chrysaoras are more likely to be left alone).

2. Aflatoxin'ed one of the chrysaoras ASAP (you may reserve one chrysaora to be used in the same round as aflatoxin). The rest can be used to poison the FGs (though the chrysaoras die pretty fast, and you may not have a chance to use all of them) or as decoys (so that FG's Fire Lances, Ice Lances, etc. are spent on the Chrysaora and not on you).

[Sorry if you were born a Chrysora, my deck is meant for you to die as cancer-induced sacrifices or decoys. :P]

3. Use a Shard of Patience as soon as you see your first Malignant cell. Or maybe as soon as your Malignant cells are fairly safe (from thunderstorm, etc). The Shard of Patience will add +2/+2 to each of your Malignant cells, every round.

When to remove the shard of patience? Well, there can be at most 23 creatures on the field. So, one turn can add +46/+46 maximum. When your attack per round is above 46, you can pull out the shard. If FG has put on a shield or you expect them to put on a shield or heal (e.g. Miracle), calculation can be a bit tricky. I am often too lazy to do that. Just wait til you can do a one-hit kill if you have plenty of shards of sacrifice left.

Do not be afraid to deploy Chrysoras while your Malignant cells are multiplying. Chrysoras can use their abilities even when they cannot attack (under the Shard of Patience's spell).

4. Defence

4.1. 4 Bone Walls (First lines of defence. Don't care if they are stolen, destroyed, etc.. I think Sundials are not as effective. You may want to endure some hits before putting up a Bone Wall since it would be a waste to lose one stack of the Wall to, say, rays of light.)

4.2. 6 Shards of Sacrifice (Last lines of defence. Use it whenever you think your health will go below 40 after the next hit by FG).

Note: You may be able to switch back and forth between Bone Walls and Shards of Sacrifice. For example, when SoSa heals you to high health and FG doesn't have too many creatures out there, you may switch from SoSa to Bone Wall.

Tip: if you want to use Shard of Patience and Shard of Sacrifice in the same turn, use Shard of Patience first. Otherwise Shard of Sacrifice would drain your water quantas.


Other variations:
Shards of Sacrifice can be changed to Improved Plagues when facing small pests like Eternal Phoenix. Plagues will make your bone walls last much longer. Or you can try using a combination of plagues and congeals (so poison can drain large creatures while they are congealed).

Some players may prefer sundials to bone walls, but I don't like it when sundials are stolen or destroyed! Bone walls are ideal against FGs that like exploding/stealing stuff.

I am tempted to try healing stuff like Empathic Bonds and/or Miracles, but that would make it a trio/quartet deck.. which I don't really fancy. :)

Edit 3 May 2013: Change name of the deck to be a bit sadistic dramatic :P
« Last Edit: May 18, 2013, 07:01:58 pm by charles_xavier »
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Re: Malignant Cell FG OTK [water][death] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48843.msg1064604#msg1064604
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2013, 11:52:34 pm »
sssooo claming an 80% win rate (best FG grinder ever) without specific FG stats. I think there is stall missing to reach that win rate.
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Re: Malignant Cell FG OTK [water][death] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48843.msg1064787#msg1064787
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2013, 07:00:38 pm »
Agree with chapuz that 80% is a bit high,
even if you skip some fg.
but this deck does look awesome!

my only concern is that 3 aflatoxin and 3 SoP is a bit low,
both for drawing and fg with pc.

edit: after playing this a few games, this is actually awesome!
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Re: The Melancholy Death of Chrysora (for Malignant Cell) [FG] [OTK] [water][death] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48843.msg1066352#msg1066352
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2013, 12:08:06 pm »
Dang, when this doesn't bottom deck Aflatoxin it is sweet! With the bottom decked aflatoxin was still able to poison Dream Catcher to 100 HP with the stalling factor before I died. And then I EM'd Eternal Phoenix. Nicely done :)

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Re: The Melancholy Death of Chrysora (for Malignant Cell) [FG] [OTK] [water][death] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48843.msg1066355#msg1066355
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2013, 12:24:01 pm »
Please rename this Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness :D

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Re: The Melancholy Death of Chrysora (for Malignant Cell) [FG] [OTK] [water][death] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48843.msg1066366#msg1066366
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2013, 01:27:30 pm »
Works very well indeed! Not too sure if I want 4 Bone Walls since they are mainly for initial defense or later on to let the FG increase its damage output.
Maybe switch one for an additional Aflatoxin?
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Re: The Melancholy Death of Chrysora (for Malignant Cell) [FG] [OTK] [water][death] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48843.msg1066461#msg1066461
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2013, 06:33:18 pm »
Bonewalls are an interesting choice ;)

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Re: The Melancholy Death of Chrysora (for Malignant Cell) [FG] [OTK] [water][death] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48843.msg1066782#msg1066782
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I'm profitting much more using this against Plat ^^ Let's see how often in a row I can win with this :D
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Re: The Melancholy Death of Chrysora (for Malignant Cell) [FG] [OTK] [water][death] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48843.msg1066901#msg1066901
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2013, 08:21:04 pm »
It does AMAZING versus False gods: 22/30 at the moment. Does it really have an 'auto-quit' false god?
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Re: The Melancholy Death of Chrysora (for Malignant Cell) [FG] [OTK] [water][death] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48843.msg1066904#msg1066904
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2013, 08:27:12 pm »
Judging from my experience with a different malignant+patience deck, Octane will be an auto-quit. Possibly Decay, Hermes, or Eternal Phoenix as well.

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Re: The Melancholy Death of Chrysora (for Malignant Cell) [FG] [OTK] [water][death] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48843.msg1066907#msg1066907
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2013, 08:34:51 pm »
I beat Hermes twice so I think he won't be a problem.

TIP: If opponent plays Gravity shield, DON'T USE Shard of Patience until you have the 23 mallignant cells on field. Then keep it obviously until the cells reach 5HP.
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Re: The Melancholy Death of Chrysora (for Malignant Cell) [FG] [OTK] [water][death] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48843.msg1066928#msg1066928
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2013, 09:37:01 pm »
so do we have a new best FG farmer? I think it looks to easy to be true.
i do not have SoP, so can not try it.
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