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Sleep tight with those gargoyles! [New generation rushier ghostmare] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45474.msg1026418#msg1026418
« on: December 28, 2012, 08:36:38 pm »
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Re: Sleep tight with those gargoyles! [New generation rushier ghostmare] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45474.msg1026428#msg1026428
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2012, 09:10:39 pm »
Somehow, i don't think this one is capable of 4 turn wins.
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Re: Sleep tight with those gargoyles! [New generation rushier ghostmare] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45474.msg1026517#msg1026517
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2012, 03:57:27 am »
im thinking that ghostmare is faster... but if you want to add cards that slow it down, at least make it worth it. instead of gargoyles, liquid shadow.
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Re: Sleep tight with those gargoyles! [New generation rushier ghostmare] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45474.msg1026541#msg1026541
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 06:39:13 am »
im thinking that ghostmare is faster... but if you want to add cards that slow it down, at least make it worth it. instead of gargoyles, liquid shadow.

Slow it down? You rush the hell. You have more creatures, also, that tricky quanta doesn't slow you down.

Somehow, i don't think this one is capable of 4 turn wins.

Well, it's pretty fast. Got 4 TTW the first game, and then got 5,4,6,5 and some others. Depending your hand, you rush so much, or you nightmare.
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Re: Sleep tight with those gargoyles! [New generation rushier ghostmare] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45474.msg1026567#msg1026567
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2012, 11:39:18 am »
im thinking that ghostmare is faster... but if you want to add cards that slow it down, at least make it worth it. instead of gargoyles, liquid shadow.

Slow it down? You rush the hell. You have more creatures, also, that tricky quanta doesn't slow you down.

Somehow, i don't think this one is capable of 4 turn wins.

Well, it's pretty fast. Got 4 TTW the first game, and then got 5,4,6,5 and some others. Depending your hand, you rush so much, or you nightmare.
Show me a way to get a 4 ttw.
Also a 2nd/3rd turn Ghostmare combo was what Ghostmare needed to take control of the game, you basically removed most of the game winners from Ghostmare: RT to slow rushes down, Eternity for hand lockdown and early Ghostmare combo and added in some rushes creatures.
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Re: Sleep tight with those gargoyles! [New generation rushier ghostmare] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45474.msg1026570#msg1026570
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2012, 11:49:44 am »
Go 2nd. Enemy dumps hand every turn.

First turn, play 6 pends play gargoyle. 7 damage+nightmare in hand.
Next turn, draw and play gargoyle. 14 damage that turn. 21 damage total+nightmare in hand.
Next turn, draw and play GotP. Nightmare GotP. 39 damage that turn. 60 damage total.
Enemy discards GotP, hurt 13 damage. 73 damage total.
Next turn, draw and play gargoyle. 30 damage this turn. 103 damage total.

4 turn win?
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Re: Re: Sleep tight with those gargoyles! [New generation rushier ghostmare] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45474.msg1026574#msg1026574
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2012, 12:02:34 pm »
Go 2nd. Enemy dumps hand every turn.

First turn, play 6 pends play gargoyle. 7 damage+nightmare in hand.
Next turn, draw and play gargoyle. 14 damage that turn. 21 damage total+nightmare in hand.
Next turn, draw and play GotP. Nightmare GotP. 39 damage that turn. 60 damage total.
Enemy discards GotP, hurt 13 damage. 73 damage total.
Next turn, draw and play gargoyle. 30 damage this turn. 103 damage total.

4 turn win?

Isn't that too improbable? Especially against Ai3.
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Re: Sleep tight with those gargoyles! [New generation rushier ghostmare] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45474.msg1026576#msg1026576
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2012, 12:07:49 pm »
I only proved it's possible to get a 4 turn win. Plenty of times I've AI will dump hand by at least the 3rd turn. They can even have 1 card and still urk out by 1 damage.
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