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Reflection (anti fg deck v 1.31) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40487.msg501524#msg501524
« on: May 20, 2012, 08:29:28 pm »
Hello everybody.

Here is my first FG farmer. The main strategy is like in liquid shadow/antimatter to defeat the False God with his own creatures. As FGs now target their own AMd creatures a better version is needed. And here it is.

Contains:
5 SoWs (Shard of Wisdom) i recommend upped ones
5 SoGs (Shard of Gratitude) same as before
5 Jade Shields (unupped ones are very weak)
5 QE (Quintessence) doesn't have to be upped
10 Aether Pendulums (upped ones are faster)
Mark of Life (for full SoG power)

Once you get a shield out, QE the strongest monster and then SoW it to make it attack your opponent with +4/0 each turn.
Use SoGs with full 5 hp healing per shard per turn to stay alive.

Shields block damage dealt by minor creatures and are immune to pc.

FGs can't get rid of the SoW creatures.

Even momentum will be reflected.

FGs will still use effects that increase stats with SoWed creatures to increase the damage even further.

Weak only to quanta control or massive pc against your shards.

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Light version:
Contains:
5 SoWs (Shard of Wisdom) i recommend upped ones
5 Sanctuaries same as before
5 Mirror Shields (weak - unupped ones are unplayable)
5 QE (Quintessence) doesn't have to be upped
10 Aether Pendulums (upped ones are faster)
Mark of Light

Gets shield out quicker - Save against QC - Contains less rares - Shields are weaker

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Divinity version
Contains:
5 SoWs (Shard of Wisdom) i recommend upped ones
5 SoDs (Shard of Divinity) same as before
5 Mirror Shields (weak - unupped ones are unplayable)
5 QE (Quintessence) doesn't have to be upped
10 Aether Pendulums (upped ones are faster)
Mark of Light (for full SoD power)

no EMs but save against PC

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« Last Edit: May 20, 2012, 09:21:53 pm by Saywhaat »
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Re: Reflection (anti fg deck v 1.31) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40487.msg501531#msg501531
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2012, 08:46:48 pm »
Use [deck ] instead of [code ] to display images of the decks.
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« Last Edit: May 20, 2012, 09:26:54 pm by Wizy »
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Re: Reflection (anti fg deck v 1.31) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40487.msg501536#msg501536
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2012, 09:22:29 pm »
awesome thanks :D

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Re: Reflection (anti fg deck v 1.31) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40487.msg501606#msg501606
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2012, 12:49:04 am »
Do they really work against non-akebono FGs?
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Re: Reflection (anti fg deck v 1.31) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40487.msg501615#msg501615
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2012, 01:20:06 am »
Nice, I've been trying to put this idea into a good synergy. You've done it :P

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Re: Reflection (anti fg deck v 1.31) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40487.msg501810#msg501810
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2012, 12:55:57 pm »
Stats coming soon :D

Do they really work against non-akebono FGs?
Sure.
Even FGs with low attack creatures are possible because the SoW makes them stronger so even 2 comboed 6 attack creatures = 2x10 dmg per turn together with a strong and immaterial shield and massive permanent healing will bring down a FG.

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Re: Reflection (anti fg deck v 1.31) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40487.msg501813#msg501813
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2012, 01:03:56 pm »
Do they really work against non-akebono FGs?
Sure.
Even FGs with low attack creatures are possible because the SoW makes them stronger so even 2 comboed 6 attack creatures = 2x10 dmg per turn together with a strong and immaterial shield and massive permanent healing will bring down a FG.
But you are controlling 5 creatures max and FGs use to have "a bit" more.
Mathematically speaking, you must on average make the FG deal to himself 2x damage he makes to you. So in my opinion you need more stalling stuff. I would go for something like this:
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More rares, but looks much better.
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Re: Reflection (anti fg deck v 1.31) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40487.msg502374#msg502374
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2012, 07:31:14 pm »
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Very preliminary testing, but so far Rainbow, Morte, and Akebono have all proven doable.  Chaos Lord was close, as was Ferox.  Haven't run up against the rest yet, but I imagine Lionheart, Divine Glory, and Octane should be winnable, as well.  The rest: I dunno, yet.

Edit: Decay, close loss, without even drawing a shield.  Neptune, simple as ever.  Paradox - not a chance of keeping up with his rush.  Hermes - win.
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Re: Reflection (anti fg deck v 1.31) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40487.msg502376#msg502376
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2012, 07:49:09 pm »
I don't have enough SoWs to test the decks (and I can't be bothered to go to the trainer), but are 5 shields really necessary given they can't be destroyed?

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Re: Reflection (anti fg deck v 1.31) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40487.msg502378#msg502378
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2012, 07:52:35 pm »
I don't have enough SoWs to test the decks (and I can't be bothered to go to the trainer), but are 5 shields really necessary given they can't be destroyed?

Totally.  If you don't draw one right away, you'll be overcome handily.  Remember, the shields are your win condition, along with SoW/Quint.
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Re: Reflection (anti fg deck v 1.31) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40487.msg505427#msg505427
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2012, 02:00:24 pm »
I played around with this for myself, and came up with this:

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PU for more damage, Silence to do a minor slowdown at the beginning, or to prevent FGs like Miracle to... well, Miracle. Yours are probably better however.

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Re: Reflection (anti fg deck v 1.31) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40487.msg505431#msg505431
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2012, 02:14:41 pm »
I played around with this for myself, and came up with this:

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PU for more damage, Silence to do a minor slowdown at the beginning, or to prevent FGs like Miracle to... well, Miracle. Yours are probably better however.
Um.... TUs only hurts the deck? Can't target an immortal creature after all  ::)
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