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Red Bu.. Spider - It gives you Wings! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8419.msg96795#msg96795
« on: June 20, 2010, 11:17:43 am »
Red Bull Spider
- It gives you Wings!

I tested the new Wings card and improved Flesh Spider today in the Trainer (http://www.elementsthegame.com/trainer) today and came up with these two decks. They are very simple, made in 5 minutes, and have only been tested for about 20 times against AI3. However they are both very good decks and you can instantly see the huge potential in Wings-Spider synergy. I personally think something needs to be nerfed here because with 5 turn duration, Wings is just ridiculously powerful.

Anyone interested in the new Wings card and improved Flesh Spider, I suggest you go to Trainer (http://www.elementsthegame.com/trainer) and check out these two decks. Remember, you have to buy Wings from Bazaar. You don't get it with the "All Cards" button.


Red Spider #1
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710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 713 713 713 713 713 713 718 718 718 718 718 718 719 719 719 719 71a 7n8 7n8 7n8 8pr

This one uses mark of :air to pay for Wings and Webs. Rest of the deck is a simple poison deck.



Red Spider #2
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713 713 713 713 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7mu 7mu 7mu 7mu 7mu 7mu 7n5 7n8 7n8 7n8 7n8 8pk

This one uses mark of :death to pay for spiders. Rest of the deck is Wyrm rush.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2012, 06:33:42 am by willng3 »

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Re: Red Bu.. Spider - It gives you Wings! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8419.msg96861#msg96861
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2010, 02:17:45 pm »
Nice job exploiting the synergy so fast  :P The second deck is great and works well but i think the first deck just needs more air quanta. If the opponent has a lot of airborne creatures then your in a very tough position needing to pay 3 every 5 turns and then you only have 2 quanta every 5 turns left for webbing creatures D:
Maybe add some ar pillars or a couple of damsleflies? if you got it right then it would speed up the deck hugely.
Just some thoughts. You can ignore me entirely if you want. :)
*edit* Hey i just did some extra testing with other decks and i came up with this:
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710 710 710 710 710 710 710 713 713 713 713 713 713 71a 71a 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7n2 7n5 7n8 7n8 7n8 7n8 7n8 7ta 7taworks quite fast and i generally have enoguh quanta. This could be a better build. Please try it out :)

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Re: Red Bu.. Spider - It gives you Wings! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8419.msg99036#msg99036
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2010, 03:35:29 am »
these look good! Scaredgirl, you should use your deckbuilding skillz to work on this spider FG deck
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8400.new.html#new
it has potential...but we can't decide whether fractal or quint works better

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Re: Red Bu.. Spider - It gives you Wings! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8419.msg102100#msg102100
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2010, 11:28:37 am »
what happens with the web skill when u use it on something?

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Re: Red Bu.. Spider - It gives you Wings! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8419.msg103572#msg103572
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2010, 05:13:38 am »
mark of air just isn't enough to web enemy creatures ANY fuel Wings. The second deck looks more viable, though those four spiders are all very vulnerable to the vast amount of creature control (maxwell's dragons, mutations, rewinds, any lance or bolt, etc. etc.)

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Re: Red Bu.. Spider - It gives you Wings! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8419.msg103983#msg103983
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2010, 09:33:05 pm »
mark of air just isn't enough to web enemy creatures ANY fuel Wings. The second deck looks more viable, though those four spiders are all very vulnerable to the vast amount of creature control (maxwell's dragons, mutations, rewinds, any lance or bolt, etc. etc.)
have you tested wings at all? it actually is enough most of the time, because you won't have to web everything, only the flying stuff, and only the big flying stuff on top of that. also you'll have some time in the beginning of the game to build up some :air
if the only air cards in a deck are wings (like the first deck) then just the mark is definitely all you need, having any more would just be inconsistent and unnecessary

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Re: Red Bu.. Spider - It gives you Wings! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8419.msg104090#msg104090
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2010, 11:32:59 pm »
what happens with the web skill when u use it on something?
Some creatures were given the passive ability Airborne, which means it can bypass the Wings shield. The Web ability removes that ability, so it can't get through Wings.
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Re: Red Bu.. Spider - It gives you Wings! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8419.msg108223#msg108223
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2010, 09:56:29 am »
Im using the second deck and it is EASILY a lv5 farming deck that pars on the power of a fully upped mono aether rush...only MUCH better and efficient. Well done SG, well done. Now if someone will make a FG deck based on this with maybe some Phase shields thrown in... -ponders-
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