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Re: Powerful Wyrms (Air Rush) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12895.msg530296#msg530296
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2012, 05:57:56 pm »
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Re: Powerful Wyrms (Air Rush) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12895.msg530428#msg530428
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2012, 11:46:52 pm »
Just one moar blitz?
If you're referring to Sky Blitz, I rarely if ever find that Sky Blitz helps to improve the TTW of decks as fast as this.

If you're referring to SoFr, I would expect it to follow the same trend of increasing winrate but decreasing Turn To Win values though I could be wrong.
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Re: Powerful Wyrms (Air Rush) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12895.msg530429#msg530429
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2012, 11:48:12 pm »
I wonder what the optimal win rate and TTW is. Like, is there a magical number of SoFres or a magical mod of this that will maximize both speed and effectiveness?

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Re: Powerful Wyrms (Air Rush) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12895.msg1002797#msg1002797
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2012, 03:43:37 am »
*Raises hand* Why not forgo the long swords in favor of two more SoFr?
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Re: Powerful Wyrms (Air Rush) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12895.msg1002799#msg1002799
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2012, 03:45:31 am »
*Raises hand* Why not forgo the long swords in favor of two more SoFr?
Because longsword is an OP very efficient weapon. You can try replacing them with SoFre, but I am unwilling to spend around 45k buying this deck, so you should ask someone else to test :>

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Re: Powerful Wyrms (Air Rush) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12895.msg1002803#msg1002803
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2012, 03:53:32 am »
Sure, longsword is powerful, but couldn't the increased chance of bonus damage, targeting evasion, and shield bypassing outweigh the 6 damage the longsword does? Sounds like moar rushiness plus other bonuses to me.

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Re: Powerful Wyrms (Air Rush) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12895.msg1002806#msg1002806
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2012, 03:57:21 am »
Sure, longsword is powerful, but couldn't the increased chance of bonus damage, targeting evasion, and shield bypassing outweigh the 6 damage the longsword does? Sounds like moar rushiness plus other bonuses to me.

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A longsword is almost guaranteed 6 damage per turn for 1 :rainbow. A SoFre is 3 :rainbow that gives stackable bonuses. If we assume an elite wyrm has been buffed twice with CP and there are 2 damsels, the potential for extra damage is 13. 13/4=4.25~ so even if you had a dived 22atk wyrm and 2 damsels, one SoFre gives an average of around 4 extra damage. Of course, shield bypass and dodge bonus should be calculated into this, but it seems that the cost makes it so that longsword is a better option.

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Re: Powerful Wyrms (Air Rush) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12895.msg1002810#msg1002810
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2012, 04:16:03 am »
Playing a wee little informal test using the trainer, and I'm starting to see where I, the uninformed newbie, am wrong, and you, the established veterans, are correct. While the SoFr certainly doesn't HURT, it doesn't help nearly as much as one would like. The main problem as I see it is the cost. When you have to choose between 1. Diving your 15 damage wyrm for a total of 30, or 2. playing a SoFr for a 25% chance of that wyrm doing 22 damage.......Well, the answers pretty clear there.

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Re: Powerful Wyrms (Air Rush) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12895.msg1002812#msg1002812
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2012, 04:17:49 am »
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Re: Powerful Wyrms (Air Rush) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12895.msg1002894#msg1002894
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Re: Powerful Wyrms (Air Rush) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12895.msg1003046#msg1003046
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2012, 12:56:44 am »
might i suggest adding discord?

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Re: Powerful Wyrms (Air Rush) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12895.msg1003047#msg1003047
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2012, 12:58:03 am »
might i suggest adding discord?
A discord powered by just a mark and ruining the focus of the deck? Seems like a good idea.

 

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