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Poison I https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31285.msg396370#msg396370
« on: September 20, 2011, 10:04:17 pm »
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Re: Poison I https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31285.msg396504#msg396504
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2011, 02:27:37 am »
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2 Steals are there for PC, and 2 mummies for additional damage. You definitely don't need 3 daggers. 2 arsenics or 1 will suffice if you have it. Maybe add some vampires as well for healing?

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Re: Poison I https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31285.msg396535#msg396535
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2011, 03:55:07 am »
In defense of the dagger, it's a 3 damage attack (with the dark mark bonus, and 5 if upped) that the AI seems to totally ignore, for no cost.

That said, I'd still use the Arsenic, if available.

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Re: Poison I https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31285.msg396556#msg396556
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2011, 05:19:11 am »
In defense of the dagger, it's a 3 damage attack (with the dark mark bonus, and 5 if upped) that the AI seems to totally ignore, for no cost.

That said, I'd still use the Arsenic, if available.
That's true. It's cheaper, but arsenic does 2 damage each turn and it gains by 1 each turn. The only reason I can think of using dagger for arsenic is if you don't have arsenic. 3 daggers is still overkill though. 1 or 2 should be fine. Also, the deck I made probably has some wonky quanta distribution. Take it with a grain of salt.

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Re: Poison I https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31285.msg396581#msg396581
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2011, 06:56:58 am »
PC would just about shut this deck down, its a shame you could not afford 3 novas and 2 protect artifacts.

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Re: Poison I https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31285.msg396605#msg396605
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2011, 09:05:59 am »
PC would just about shut this deck down
6 deathstalkers and 1 nightfall is 12 damage per turn, unaffected by PC, which is pretty much like playing a dragon that can only be killed with purify.

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Re: Poison I https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31285.msg396608#msg396608
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2011, 09:24:30 am »
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6 deathstalkers and 1 nightfall is 12 damage per turn, unaffected by PC, which is pretty much like playing a dragon that can only be killed with purify.
And thats at a best case scenario. 

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Re: Poison I https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31285.msg396621#msg396621
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2011, 10:05:56 am »
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6 deathstalkers and 1 nightfall is 12 damage per turn, unaffected by PC, which is pretty much like playing a dragon that can only be killed with purify.
And thats at a best case scenario. 
You want realistic stuff? You have 6 deathstalkers, 3 nightfalls, 30 cards. You draw a deathstalker every 5 cards and a nightfall every 10 cards. So by the second turn, you can play two deathstalkers and 1 nightfall, which is 4 damage per turn. By the twelfth turn, the opponent has 60 health left, and you can play two more deathstalkers with your second nightfall, dealing 8 damage per turn. The opponent dies on turn 20th turn, well before you deck out.

My point? That PC alone doesn't shut this deck down, contrary to what you claim. Try it yourself, with this deck against a deck with 25 burning pillars and 6 deflagrations, or 25 earth pendulums and 6 pulverizers.

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Re: Poison I https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31285.msg396622#msg396622
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2011, 10:14:33 am »
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You want realistic stuff? You have 6 deathstalkers, 3 nightfalls, 30 cards. You draw a deathstalker every 5 cards and a nightfall every 10 cards. So by the second turn, you can play two deathstalkers and 1 nightfall, which is 4 damage per turn. By the twelfth turn, the opponent has 60 health left, and you can play two more deathstalkers with your second nightfall, dealing 8 damage per turn. The opponent dies on turn 20th turn, well before you deck out.

My point? That PC alone doesn't shut this deck down, contrary to what you claim. Try it yourself, with this deck against a deck with 25 burning pillars and 6 deflagrations, or 25 earth pendulums and 6 pulverizers.
I stand by what I said.  Nothing guarantees you always draw a nightfall every 10, nor does anything promise I will have a deck of all PC (and I never said it would beat the deck, I said "just about").  My general point was that PC would do a lot of damage to this deck, its true. 

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Re: Poison I https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31285.msg401720#msg401720
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2011, 06:25:30 pm »
very nice.  if you have just a few turns with big poison, then comes a shield. the poison will kill it.  In a matter of time, at least.

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Re: Poison I https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31285.msg407339#msg407339
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2011, 03:05:21 am »
hmm i made a deck a lot like this once...  actually, I still use it... :D

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