Pestal 101

[Xenocidius]

Is this supposed to be mark?

Whoops, changed.

[ralouf]

@ couponlady : I run 30 cards maybe 31 depending the day

[couponlady]

Do you play with any weapons in your deck? I have been running Electrocuter and the Vampire Dagger. Now I'm fooling around without the weapons in my deck. I have added 6 Earthquakes and 2 Stone Pillar/ 2 Stone Tower to see what happens.

[ralouf]

With 6 EQ and 2 stone pillar/tower in your 60 cards deck I can tell you what will happen :  you'll never have you earth quanta and you will have a full hand of EQ.

I use 1 vamp dagger, electrocutor cost precious aether quanta and I want to keep them for fractal.

[isicampillo]

I usually play a similar deck, with a few changes. My deck is:

 2 vampires
 3 siphon life
 1 vampire dagger
 3 obsidian towers
10 pendulum
 6 devourer
 3 steal
 5 fractal

You do not need 6 fractals. No eclipse. Eclipse can be a weakness against fire shield and thorn carapace. This deck wins in AI3 ALWAYS!!!!!. My personal statistics in AI3 is 97 wins 0 losses. The number of devourers must be greater than the number of pillars of the other player. You can steal pillars. Siphon life is used against opponents creatures at first.

 It's a fun deck, but there are better decks vs FG.

[Calindu]

 This deck wins in AI3 ALWAYS!!!!!The number of devourers must be greater than the number of pillars of the rival.

All rushes win against Ai3,and if i play with a friend,it is still a rival?

[isicampillo]

It is true, the other player can be your friend.

[couponlady]

I usually play a similar deck, with a few changes. My deck is:

 2 vampires
 3 siphon life
 1 vampire dagger
 3 obsidian towers
10 pendulum
 6 devourer
 3 steal
 5 fractal

You do not need 6 fractals. No eclipse. Eclipse can be a weakness against fire shield and thorn carapace. This deck wins in AI3 ALWAYS!!!!!. My personal statistics in AI3 is 97 wins 0 losses. The number of devourers must be greater than the number of pillars of the other player. You can steal pillars. Siphon life is used against opponents creatures at first.

 It's a fun deck, but there are better decks vs FG.

I like eclipse because it can help your vampires actual do damage. If your opponent is able to play any shield that reduces damage by 2 or even 3 your not going to be able to deal much damage. If I'm only dealing 2 life a turn with Vampires I'm probably not going to gain enough life from what ever damage the opponent is dealing. If you play against Ferox it really helps having Eclipse. I lost a game against Ferox just because he had too many Feral Bonds. He was able to get 7 Feral Bonds out and I wasn't able to deal enough damage to counteract the life gain. I was able to Fractal one of my Black Dragons. I didn't enough slots available to play more than 2 Dragons. I eventually had to quit because I couldn't do enough damage to kill the opponent in one turn. The next time I played Ferox I knew to leave slots open so I could fractal and play extra Black Dragons.

I do understand your reasoning for not wanting to play Eclipse. I know the Fire Shield can be a problem against Pests if you do have Eclipse out. If you go against other Death or Darkness decks Eclipse could hurt you more than it helps. I had been playing Black Dragons but have taken them out. I now have the deck at 50 cards instead of 60. I'm running
5x Fractal
5x Pest
5x Vampire
4x Improved Steal
4x Quicksand
3x Improved Dusk
2x Eclipse
2x Electrocuter
10x Obsidian Tower
7x Aether Tower
3x Stone Tower

[Bonestorm]

No eclipse. Eclipse can be a weakness against fire shield and thorn carapace.

Eclipse is extremely useful. If you see a fire buckler or a thorn cara just neglect to play it. Even if you do the Fire Buckler is going to take 5 turns to kill off the pests and it will give your vamps an extra turn of life. The fact is some players will have so much healing in the shape of SoGs or Bonds that eclipse will be needed.

As for the big fat 50/60 card deck this is a denial deck that relies on pulling cards consistently and quickly, much more effective in it's smaller format.

[Calindu]

Oh come on!Just reveal the code,easy and simple.

[Djhopper :)]

I made a (mostly) un-upped version:

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5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 61o 61o 61o 622 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 7ta 7ta 7td 7td
It's pretty fast. Anyone know if you can get faster denial un-upped?

[Calindu]

I made a (mostly) un-upped version:

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5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 61o 61o 61o 622 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 7ta 7ta 7td 7td
It's pretty fast. Anyone know if you can get faster denial un-upped?

Mitopests,fractal is hard to power in speed unupped.
And purelly devourers+EQ,EQ all pillars then devourer to drain all quanta.