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Quickened Nymphomaniacs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49925.msg1081066#msg1081066
« on: June 18, 2013, 03:10:30 am »
Dunno if anyone remembers the Queen Sacrifice deck I posted back a few versions ago, but I had an idea today for a similar deck.  I'm not sure how viable it actually is.  However, as I did a deck search and no decks came up in the duo boards with the two key cards (well, the only two cards...) I think it might be somewhat new in concept.  So, behold... the quickened nymphomaniacs!

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Not sure if this is the best version, but another thought I had was to drop either a pillar and/or a shard in exchange for a purify and a deflagration.  The reasoning behind that is that if your opponent puts up a shard of sacrifice, you can bring it down with purify, and if your opponent puts up a dimshield or sundial or gravity shield, you can take that down as well.  With the fast drawing using the shards, you'll have a decent odds of finding even a single copy in a 30 card deck.

I didn't test a lot of games (maybe 10 or so) but win or lose, it burns through nearly the entire deck in 8 or 9 turns.  I couldn't test the unupped version because pvp1 was down, but I tested in pvp2.  Unfortunately, the record wasn't great, I don't think I won more than one or two games.  I tested it against FGs, and found that it wasn't quite quick enough there as well, though I did manage to outrush Hermes (!) with an 8 TTW.

Another thought I had, particularly with the unupped version and the higher cost shards, and in any version using deflags, would be to add a few pendulums instead of pillars, to increase fire quanta count.  If you end up getting too many pendulums, you can just use them first for NT fodder, too.

I don't usually post many decks because basically everything has been done before, but I can't recall ever seeing this, so I figured I'd share my idea.

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Re: Quickened Nymphomaniacs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49925.msg1081156#msg1081156
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2013, 02:51:58 pm »
As the queen's skill is cheaper than the NT, I suggest for both versions 6 SoBs and 4 NTs. This way you will surely have an early NT.
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Re: Quickened Nymphomaniacs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49925.msg1081194#msg1081194
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2013, 06:14:18 pm »
Um, what advantages and disadvantages does this have over Fire Mark -> Water Mark, 6 SoB -> 6 SoR, 10 Water Tower -> 10 Time Pendulums?

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Re: Quickened Nymphomaniacs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49925.msg1081195#msg1081195
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2013, 06:14:20 pm »
I thought about dropping a tears or two because of the bravery drawing, but after playing a few games in pvp2, I realized that sometimes you actually need two tears early.  For example, one guy I went against was using monoaether and dropped a turn 1 lobotomizer, so I needed to get two nymphs out at the same time for them to start breeding.  However, I've also had games where my first hand gets clogged with 3-4 tears and a shard or two, and then it's just way too slow, so I guess it's a question of which scenario is more likely to occur, and adjust the deck accordingly.

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Re: Quickened Nymphomaniacs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49925.msg1081198#msg1081198
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2013, 06:27:33 pm »
Made one of these a while back, but don't have the code.  Dessication actually works quite well with this.  CC and extra quanta, just couldn't get the number of pillars right XD.  I think I ended up with 5 sob, 6 NT, 4/5 dessication (unupped one, may be dry spell, don't know) and rest quanta.
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