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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg528567#msg528567
« Reply #120 on: August 03, 2012, 05:08:54 pm »
Chances are low enough that AI3 farming is better.

Are you sure about that?  I thought 25% of cards spun in AI4 were Upped?  Which would mean that approximately 1 in 4 cards won would be Upped.  So 1 in 4 cards would be worth 3-10 times as much as a card won in AI3.

That seems worth it to me.  Or am I working on faulty information?

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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg531636#msg531636
« Reply #121 on: August 10, 2012, 08:10:18 pm »
Chances are low enough that AI3 farming is better.

Are you sure about that?  I thought 25% of cards spun in AI4 were Upped?  Which would mean that approximately 1 in 4 cards won would be Upped.  So 1 in 4 cards would be worth 3-10 times as much as a card won in AI3.

That seems worth it to me.  Or am I working on faulty information?

Actually its very hard to get upped cards in AI4. The win rate is fine and you can get EM sometimes with a nice deck but the matchs are slow compared to AI3 matches (and win rate on AI3 are almost 100% with nice decks)

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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg532407#msg532407
« Reply #122 on: August 13, 2012, 12:39:28 am »
I don't know if it's just me but using Instosis on FG's seems to give almost the same amount of upped cards/hour compared with using speedbow on AI4.
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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg532408#msg532408
« Reply #123 on: August 13, 2012, 12:43:37 am »
That right there is pure sacrificing to the RNG sorta luck. Never come close to those sorta numbers.
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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg1006928#msg1006928
« Reply #124 on: October 11, 2012, 09:52:14 am »



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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg1007299#msg1007299
« Reply #125 on: October 13, 2012, 01:44:58 am »
Yeah the AI plays two supernovas in a row sometimes for some reason. No idea why.
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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg1020427#msg1020427
« Reply #126 on: December 07, 2012, 08:40:28 pm »
Chances are low enough that AI3 farming is better.

Are you sure about that?  I thought 25% of cards spun in AI4 were Upped?  Which would mean that approximately 1 in 4 cards won would be Upped.  So 1 in 4 cards would be worth 3-10 times as much as a card won in AI3.

That seems worth it to me.  Or am I working on faulty information?

Think about it. 1/4 chance for card to be upped, so that would mean that 1/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 chance for card to be upped. 1/64 times the card that you get in the spin will be upped. That's not really a great chance, imo.

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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg1021316#msg1021316
« Reply #127 on: December 11, 2012, 03:41:49 am »
Chances are low enough that AI3 farming is better.

Are you sure about that?  I thought 25% of cards spun in AI4 were Upped?  Which would mean that approximately 1 in 4 cards won would be Upped.  So 1 in 4 cards would be worth 3-10 times as much as a card won in AI3.

That seems worth it to me.  Or am I working on faulty information?

Think about it. 1/4 chance for card to be upped, so that would mean that 1/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 chance for card to be upped. 1/64 times the card that you get in the spin will be upped. That's not really a great chance, imo.
I think about 1/3 of my cards won from AI4 are upped.
I don't know if I'm just lucky or something, but the numbers here and my experience farming AI4 are WAY different. I don't think the card selection in the spin is as random as the other opponents' spins.
Try farming AI4 yourself for a 50 games and see what you think.
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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg1040421#msg1040421
« Reply #128 on: February 09, 2013, 04:45:08 pm »
2- Lobotomizer/SoG's. You can make the deck without the SoG's, but it's better with 3 of them, and Lobo is a must against some gods, so 1/2 of the effect's cost is awesome (the jump from  :aether :aether to  :aether is a lot)

How am I supposed to play without :life? I assume this advice is outdated. Or am I missing something?

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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg1040428#msg1040428
« Reply #129 on: February 09, 2013, 05:04:03 pm »
2- Lobotomizer/SoG's. You can make the deck without the SoG's, but it's better with 3 of them, and Lobo is a must against some gods, so 1/2 of the effect's cost is awesome (the jump from  :aether :aether to  :aether is a lot)

How am I supposed to play without :life? I assume this advice is outdated. Or am I missing something?
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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg1040607#msg1040607
« Reply #130 on: February 10, 2013, 12:27:06 am »
Ah, thanks.

While we're at it: Is this deck still viable? I seem to have a hard time using the basic variant. I hope it should get easier with upped cards.

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Re: My RoL/Hope (mostly) unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14533.msg1040648#msg1040648
« Reply #131 on: February 10, 2013, 03:10:14 am »
The AI's difficulty has changed a bit since this deck was posted but it should still be viable.  However I don't grind FGs anymore, so I can't really tell you exactly how viable it is.  Its efficiency increases as you get more upgrades.
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