liquid antimatter

[ddevans96]

A pendulum version of this deck is already posted on the wiki: http://elementscommunity.org/wiki/decks/anti-false-god-decks/liquid-antimatter-unupped-fg-farmer/

Excuse me good sir, have you heard of something called timestamps?

Look at them before making a comment like that please.

[Roblos]

A pendulum version of this deck is already posted on the wiki: http://elementscommunity.org/wiki/decks/anti-false-god-decks/liquid-antimatter-unupped-fg-farmer/

Excuse me good sir, have you heard of something called timestamps?

Look at them before making a comment like that please.

Sorry, forgot to look at the time posted

[ggabriel2]

Mostly liquid antimatter seems to be talked about in the context of a cheap unupped deck, but I've been enjoying the following upgraded version:

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I've tallied up over 600 games and my normalized win rate is currently hovering at 41.9%. That doesn't sound great, but the win distribution is heavily lopsided, giving you 10 or 11 safe skips and a handful of very lucrative consistent beatdown targets. When you're getting a 40% win rate after skipping over a third of the gods you can pull in some very decent cash. It helps that it's not a terribly slow deck (I'm fitting in around 20 "real" games per hour, so that's consistently less than 5 minutes between victories.) The time and cost of skipping gods is pretty negligible, so of the actual time spent playing you'll be winning ~64% of games, and of those victories ~64% of them will be EMs, which helps score generation not be terrible. Overall I'm getting comfortably over 6000 electrum/hour, not shabby at all.

The gods I skip outright are Decay/Dream Catcher (shuts your quanta down hard, few or no good antimatter targets), Elidnis/Ferox/Fire Queen (feral bond), Scorpio (not enough big creatures, too much poison damage that can't easily be blocked), Divine Glory/Lionheart (way too many immortal targets), Osiris (eats or trebuchets any antimattered creatures), and Jezebel (can't set up your healing/damage through cloak, nymphs have all sorts of abilities that really screw you up.) Some of these are technically beatable, just not even remotely worthwhile. If you're going to take a crack at any of them, try Scorpio; sometimes he sets out big creatures you can exploit. Really, though, you should probably add Eternal Phoenix to the list too--I'm getting 17% win rate tops against Phoenix, so you'll earn a profit (it's EM or bust with Phoenix), but you'll earn more profit skipping him and moving on to more profitable pastures.

[omegareaper7]

The deck above looks good, except it doesn't need the shields or the shard. Its a pain to draw what you need in 30 card decks sometimes, even more so in 33.

[ggabriel2]

The deck above looks good, except it doesn't need the shields or the shard. Its a pain to draw what you need in 30 card decks sometimes, even more so in 33.

That was what I'd thought originally, but even buffed creatures aren't always enough to keep up with some FGs' damage output, especially those that play lots of small to medium creatures and few or no large ones. In general, I'm not hugely worried about draws--6 antimatter + 2 shields + 1 SoG means you've got a ton of damage-soaking cards, so you can afford to be patient. I'm less convinced about the shard, though. I originally put it in to try to eke out more EMs, but proper damage management is probably good enough for EMs on its own.

My statistics are pretty slim on the original 30-card version, but they were not very favorable within the small sample I recorded. I'll give it a spin again, but I'm not optimistic. Serket, obviously, just isn't happening at all without shields. But I'm only getting a 43% win rate there anyhow, so skipping her outright would not have much impact on the deck's overall profitability.

[ninetyfools]

Lol this deck sucks against lvl 1-3 :/
also it runs out of cards WAYY too fast.
3 games
1 win 2 losses
1 EM NO CARDS WON 

[omegareaper7]

Lol this deck sucks against lvl 1-3 :/
also it runs out of cards WAYY too fast.
3 games
1 win 2 losses
1 EM NO CARDS WON 

Its not made for level 3s, that should be obvious.
Also, if your running out of cards,either your playing the wrong god, or you aren't playing it right.

[pulli23]

miracle?

even though miracle says "easy" it's very much luck based: if the last 3 antimatter (or liquid shadows) are in the last 5 cards you'll deck out

[Higurashi]

That has nothing to do with the difficulty of the FG. The updated version of unupped LS/AM has a winrate of 11/4 against Miracle in testing, which is indeed excellent for a cheap, fast deck. Obliterator works the same with his big creatures.

[pulli23]

My reply, was in response to omegareaper:

Also, if your running out of cards,either your playing the wrong god, or you aren't playing it right.

I'm currently at 4/2 vs miracle, and both loses were in the situation I described above :/ - resulting in a deck out.

[furballdn]

Just wondering, which works better? Nymphomania or liquid antimatter?

[Pineapple]

miracle?

even though miracle says "easy" it's very much luck based: if the last 3 antimatter (or liquid shadows) are in the last 5 cards you'll deck out

If Miracle uses a miracle, you need to make sure Miracle never gets under 12 or 20 (don't remember which) HP without dying.
If Miracle doesn't die within 5 turns of getting 5/6 liquid shadow and antimatter each, then you're picking the wrong targets.

With Miracle (as with all gods) playing LSAM is a delicate balance between LSing FFQs (using LS and AM on scary things that'll kill you if you dont, which isn't your problem because you keep decking out) and saving your LS and AM for Jade/Light Dragons (after fulfilling the first priority of surviving until the god dies, you don't need to use LS and AM, so it's best to wait until the god's largest creatures).

If you used all your LSs and AMs on six of his eight Jade/Light Dragons and are still decking out, I don't know what to tell you.