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Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg297078#msg297078
« Reply #108 on: March 24, 2011, 04:34:30 am »
+1 karma for that awesome deck!

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Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg297361#msg297361
« Reply #109 on: March 24, 2011, 06:52:00 pm »
What order do you upgrade this in? What's prioritized?

Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg297364#msg297364
« Reply #110 on: March 24, 2011, 06:59:48 pm »
What order do you upgrade this in? What's prioritized?
I find it funny that I answer your questions... even when it's public
answer:
immolations>destroyers>phoenixes>burning towers>ball lightnings>gavel>explosions
just my opinion

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Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg297365#msg297365
« Reply #111 on: March 24, 2011, 07:02:58 pm »
What order do you upgrade this in? What's prioritized?
I find it funny that I answer your questions... even when it's public
answer:
immolations>destroyers>phoenixes>burning towers>ball lightnings>gavel>explosions
just my opinion
You're always first to reply  ;D

I'm using RoL's, not Ball Lightnings, is there any bonus to BL?

(Upping Immo's now)

Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg297367#msg297367
« Reply #112 on: March 24, 2011, 07:05:39 pm »
What order do you upgrade this in? What's prioritized?
I find it funny that I answer your questions... even when it's public
answer:
immolations>destroyers>phoenixes>burning towers>ball lightnings>gavel>explosions
just my opinion
You're always first to reply  ;D

I'm using RoL's, not Ball Lightnings, is there any bonus to BL?

(Upping Immo's now)
BLs are generally faster in upgraded fire rushes

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Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg297371#msg297371
« Reply #113 on: March 24, 2011, 07:07:58 pm »
What order do you upgrade this in? What's prioritized?
I find it funny that I answer your questions... even when it's public
answer:
immolations>destroyers>phoenixes>burning towers>ball lightnings>gavel>explosions
just my opinion
You're always first to reply  ;D

I'm using RoL's, not Ball Lightnings, is there any bonus to BL?

(Upping Immo's now)
BLs are generally faster in upgraded fire rushes
What do you mean by that? I tend to use RoL's as they can at least survive for a turn, quite good against a deck out right now with Fractalled Pests as it gives quantum to be eaten...

But what do you mean by faster?

Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg297376#msg297376
« Reply #114 on: March 24, 2011, 07:10:57 pm »
TTW has shown BLs to be faster than RoLs
in unupped, BLs do 3 damage, and photons can stay around for more than 3 turns
in upped, BLs do 5, and RoL needs 5 turns to do the same damage, considering a lot of TTW is 4, or even 3, RoLs are slower
AND if you ever need something to cremate, minor phoenixes are good, unupped phoenixes do 7 damage a turn, to cremate that would slow you down, so photons are used, in upped, BLs do more damage than minor phoenix, and u can always revive the phoenix

which is why we use BL

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Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg297378#msg297378
« Reply #115 on: March 24, 2011, 07:12:38 pm »
TTW has shown BLs to be faster than RoLs
in unupped, BLs do 3 damage, and photons can stay around for more than 3 turns
in upped, BLs do 5, and RoL needs 5 turns to do the same damage, considering a lot of TTW is 4, or even 3, RoLs are slower
AND if you ever need something to cremate, minor phoenixes are good, unupped phoenixes do 7 damage a turn, to cremate that would slow you down, so photons are used, in upped, BLs do more damage than minor phoenix, and u can always revive the phoenix

which is why we use BL
So they are only used for their free 5 damage output in one turn and not for an early cremation?

Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg297382#msg297382
« Reply #116 on: March 24, 2011, 07:16:35 pm »
before we get a phoenix on the field, BLs are used cremations (unless we already have enough :fire from earlier cremations/towers)
after we have phoenix(s), BLs are just used for damage

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Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg297606#msg297606
« Reply #117 on: March 24, 2011, 11:32:02 pm »
Ball Lightnings are merely a bonus that can be added to the deck. They are not necessary, and in all reality, they don't really change much of anything. There are a few games where drawing a bunch of them can shorten the game. But if those were rather Destrroyers, Dragons, or Phoenixes, would the game not have been shorter anyhow?

I would personally not recommend upgrading Sparksk to Ball Lightnings unless you don't have anything better to do with the 6,000 Electrum required. RoL's open the gateway for an RoL Hope deck in the future.

I now use Gemfinders and a Mark of Fire as a find it may add further stability to the deck. But again, the difference between what you use for your no cost ImmoFodder is very slight.

To answer your question about the order you upgrade it. I would suggest the following:

Immolation -> Cremation x6
Phoenix -> Minor Phoenix x3
Pillars/Pends -> Towers/Pends x6
Lava Golems -> Lava Destroyers x5
Hammer -> Gavel x1
Deflagration -> Explosion x2
Immofodder -> Better ImmoFodder x4

That was the order that I did it in, and it worked pretty well for me.
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Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg297617#msg297617
« Reply #118 on: March 24, 2011, 11:41:52 pm »
RoL's open the gateway for an RoL Hope deck in the future.


actually, RoLs just save money...
I already had Danade make RoL/hope deck :P

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Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg299917#msg299917
« Reply #119 on: March 28, 2011, 07:08:45 am »
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