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Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg281627#msg281627
« Reply #84 on: March 02, 2011, 12:27:44 pm »
i am going to try this deck or should i wait (because the new cards are going to be online )
Up to you, this is a pretty standard deck and it works great, if I do say so myself. But I suppose with the Gemfinder buff, we might be seeing a nice deck shift in Cremation Rushes to make them more stable.

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It has yet to be determined if this is an improvement or not. Much testing will need to be done concerning the matter. My initial reaction is that I'm not getting enough Earth Quanta if the game goes on too long, but I have enough Quanta to make Fahren better than Longsword more often than not. So maybe -Tower +Gnome would be better.

A remake of KOTH would look something like this.
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Note: You're going to want 4 MP's in here because now the alternate target for Cremation is often times more useful on the field generating Earth Quanta. This is one of the reasons I prefer unupped Phoenixes in a deck like this over Dragons.
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Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg286336#msg286336
« Reply #85 on: March 08, 2011, 07:49:04 pm »
I like the fact that this give more Immolation fodder and potentially more Earth quanta, but I worry about early game Earth if you can't get a quick gemfinder. It also has the disadvantage of more upgrades. I think upgraded it has more potential then the old rush though.

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Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg286340#msg286340
« Reply #86 on: March 08, 2011, 07:58:37 pm »
I like the fact that this give more Immolation fodder and potentially more Earth quanta, but I worry about early game Earth if you can't get a quick gemfinder. It also has the disadvantage of more upgrades. I think upgraded it has more potential then the old rush though.
You definitely have a point about early game Earth Quanta, but it's generally only an issue if you're dropping multiple Destroyers. And you're right, this idea is strictly upped. Unupped like this would not work well at all.

Building up to this from scratch would be done more easily by the standard deck, upgrading Gemriders instead of Photons/Sparks at the very end, then switching over.
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Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg286445#msg286445
« Reply #87 on: March 08, 2011, 10:15:47 pm »
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I just thought it would be fun to share that this here is the 6960th topic to be posted on the Forum. I just got my 6960th Win with it :))

Back to serious discussion: I think I'll be testing multiple different builds of this now to find out which is the best. Some things I'll consider:
    Fire Mark vs Earth Mark[/li]Dragon vs Phoenix (vs Graboid)[/li]Gemfinder vs Ball Lightning[/li]
I'll let you know in about... oh... never :P
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Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg286449#msg286449
« Reply #88 on: March 08, 2011, 10:18:00 pm »
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Re: PhoeniXplosion! How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg286574#msg286574
« Reply #89 on: March 09, 2011, 12:23:11 am »
I like the new name, how bout you :P
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Re: PhoeniXplosion! How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg286577#msg286577
« Reply #90 on: March 09, 2011, 12:27:14 am »
I like the new name, how bout you :P
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Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg286579#msg286579
« Reply #91 on: March 09, 2011, 12:29:56 am »
Lmao most firepower quality I've ever seen (pun may or may not be intended; it's up to you). If you were to go Earth mark for the unupped one would you replace the photons with gnomes?

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Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg286756#msg286756
« Reply #92 on: March 09, 2011, 04:45:45 am »
Lmao most firepower quality I've ever seen (pun may or may not be intended; it's up to you). If you were to go Earth mark for the unupped one would you replace the photons with gnomes?
I would think no, it slows down your spam by a whole turn to have them as gnomes. That and if you go second, you may be forced to discard. As it stands, unupped is definitely best with Photons/Sparks.

Like I said, I'll have to do some extensive Win% and ttw testing for multiple different variations of this deck now. We must find the most useful one! And besides... doing 200 games for 4-5 different decks should keep me busy for a while :P
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Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg289350#msg289350
« Reply #93 on: March 13, 2011, 05:01:37 am »
Lmao most firepower quality I've ever seen (pun may or may not be intended; it's up to you). If you were to go Earth mark for the unupped one would you replace the photons with gnomes?
I would think no, it slows down your spam by a whole turn to have them as gnomes. That and if you go second, you may be forced to discard. As it stands, unupped is definitely best with Photons/Sparks.

Like I said, I'll have to do some extensive Win% and ttw testing for multiple different variations of this deck now. We must find the most useful one! And besides... doing 200 games for 4-5 different decks should keep me busy for a while :P
Thanks to buff on Gnomes, there is no longer a problem of them fulling up hand, also they have higher Health therefore they can survive 2 turns vs a fire shield instead of one.
Gnomes are definitely better now and should be changed in original post as they will no doubt make the deck more efficient and therefore faster and better.

Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg289681#msg289681
« Reply #94 on: March 13, 2011, 07:13:24 pm »
now that I think about it... I never knew what vNG stood for..
I know NG is nap, but what's "v"

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Re: Lava Rush vNG. How to rush like a Master! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6960.msg289683#msg289683
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now that I think about it... I never knew what vNG stood for..
I know NG is nap, but what's "v"
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