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Knights Riding on Horse-Flies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30732.msg390668#msg390668
« on: September 08, 2011, 01:43:01 pm »
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Re: Knights Riding on Horse-Flies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30732.msg390669#msg390669
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2011, 01:49:13 pm »
why nightmare and for who?
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Re: Knights Riding on Horse-Flies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30732.msg390670#msg390670
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2011, 01:51:56 pm »
why nightmare and for who?
Nightmare: Because they do more stuff than nightfall, devourers, etc. do.
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Re: Knights Riding on Horse-Flies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30732.msg391034#msg391034
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2011, 02:12:48 am »
what's this deck for? AI3 or arena?

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Re: Knights Riding on Horse-Flies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30732.msg391076#msg391076
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2011, 04:22:01 am »
Ya...Sorry I dont get it. If the steals are just there for permanent control then simply run a fire mark with deflags and go all out air. This even allows you to use unstable gas. Maybe I am missing something but it all just seems so unnecessary and I do not see very much synergy going on here.  Even skyblitz vampires with eclipse sounds much better than what you have laid out.

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Re: Knights Riding on Horse-Flies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30732.msg391095#msg391095
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2011, 05:27:01 am »
Ya...Sorry I dont get it. If the steals are just there for permanent control then simply run a fire mark with deflags and go all out air. This even allows you to use unstable gas. Maybe I am missing something but it all just seems so unnecessary and I do not see very much synergy going on here.  Even skyblitz vampires with eclipse sounds much better than what you have laid out.
Nightmare wouldn't work with fire mark, and unstable gas would conflict with the air quanta.
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Re: Knights Riding on Horse-Flies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30732.msg391107#msg391107
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2011, 06:11:34 am »
Ya...Sorry I dont get it. If the steals are just there for permanent control then simply run a fire mark with deflags and go all out air. This even allows you to use unstable gas. Maybe I am missing something but it all just seems so unnecessary and I do not see very much synergy going on here.  Even skyblitz vampires with eclipse sounds much better than what you have laid out.
But why use flying EEs and unstable gasses when you can use grabbix? I'm not trying to make the deck with the highest win-rate here or anything, I'm just nightmaring a weapon and controlling both creatures and permanents while playing dragonflies and pendulums for consistent quanta production.

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Re: Knights Riding on Horse-Flies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30732.msg391212#msg391212
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2011, 02:16:02 pm »
Ya...Sorry I dont get it. If the steals are just there for permanent control then simply run a fire mark with deflags and go all out air. This even allows you to use unstable gas. Maybe I am missing something but it all just seems so unnecessary and I do not see very much synergy going on here.  Even skyblitz vampires with eclipse sounds much better than what you have laid out.
Nightmare wouldn't work with fire mark, and unstable gas would conflict with the air quanta.
The suggestion about fire mark was to remove darkness altogether. The suggestion about vampires was to remove fire altogether. Not quite sure what you mean about unstable gas in conflict with air quanta.(if you mean the dragonflies get nuked they are unnecessary and would be replaced by pillars, plus generally they get ignited in the end when it doesnt matter anymore if you MUST have dragonflies)

To the OPs comment about making the deck: If you are not making a deck with a high win-loss and did not want criticism of any kind, why post it here? Granted its not a terrible deck but I think we can all agree it could survive a few tweaks here and there. Creativity is appreciated when it has a form of efficiency about it which I dont quite see yet but you will get there. 

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Re: Knights Riding on Horse-Flies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30732.msg391231#msg391231
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2011, 03:00:28 pm »
Unstable gas costs 6 unupped, owls eye cost 5 plus the ability upkeep, not to mention you would kill the little flys which would further reduce your quanta out put stressing air even further.
Your really just suggesting a whole other idea.
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Re: Knights Riding on Horse-Flies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30732.msg391275#msg391275
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2011, 05:29:19 pm »
Well ya I guess I am suggesting a whole other idea. My reason was that if he is aiming for permanent control+ air there are better ways to pull it off so I suggested those ways. And to make it entirely clear, unstable gases only get triggered on game winning turn where it doesnt matter how many flies die.

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Re: Knights Riding on Horse-Flies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30732.msg391279#msg391279
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2011, 05:32:28 pm »
Fair enough, But steal works great as PC.  Not to mention nightmare is great for life gain + draw denial.
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Re: Knights Riding on Horse-Flies https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30732.msg391749#msg391749
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2011, 04:04:29 pm »
Fair enough, But steal works great as PC.  Not to mention nightmare is great for life gain + draw denial.
This. If I was only splashing darkness for permanent control, then of course deflagration would be better. Unfortunately, I'm not, nor am I trying to bomb the enemy with 6 20-damage permanents.

 

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