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Precognition Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18920.msg241294#msg241294
« on: January 05, 2011, 11:36:42 pm »
Precognition Death Rush

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Precognition Life Rush

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Essentially, they are the common Death and Life rushes respectively, but without Poison and Heal.  Precognition fits nicely in both of these decks because of the low cost of creatures.

Edit : removed the dragons ; TTW = 7.23 for 52 games/ 1 loss with version 1.27
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Re: Precognition Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18920.msg241631#msg241631
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 02:31:15 pm »
What good do these decks do if you give up quantum to see your opponents hand but have nothing to counter what you see?

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Re: Precognition Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18920.msg241634#msg241634
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 02:34:01 pm »
What good do these decks do if you give up quantum to see your opponents hand but have nothing to counter what you see?
Precognitions in 30-card decks are mostly for speeding up the deck, since they replace themselves with the next card in your deck when cast. That effectively turns any 30-card deck with N copies of Precognition and a reliable source of :time quanta into a [30-N]-card deck.
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Re: Precognition Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18920.msg241672#msg241672
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 04:10:38 pm »
Although your source of quanta is reliable, I don't think that it works with Precogs that well.
In most cases, I think Precog needs some instant quanta to get it going, to make sure you get those draws out as fast as you can.

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Re: Precognition Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18920.msg241707#msg241707
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2011, 04:53:18 pm »
Although your source of quanta is reliable, I don't think that it works with Precogs that well.
In most cases, I think Precog needs some instant quanta to get it going, to make sure you get those draws out as fast as you can.
Death and Life Rushes are already fast without the Precogs.  These decks usually pack Poison and Heal/Adrenaline respectively.  Especially in the standard Life Rush deck, Precog is certainly more helpful offensively than Heal.

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Re: Precognition Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18920.msg241812#msg241812
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2011, 07:37:42 pm »
but will it help out any to replace the heal?

I lost to life rushes simply cause of heals before

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Re: Precognition Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18920.msg242031#msg242031
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2011, 11:50:13 pm »
but will it help out any to replace the heal?

I lost to life rushes simply cause of heals before
Indeed, Precogs don't replace heal.  However, as a rusher, don't I want to kill my opponent as fast as possible ?  Also, have you ever started with a bunch of Heal clogging your hand ?

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Re: Precognition Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18920.msg242037#msg242037
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2011, 11:54:40 pm »
but will it help out any to replace the heal?

I lost to life rushes simply cause of heals before
Indeed, Precogs don't replace heal.  However, as a rusher, don't I want to kill my opponent as fast as possible ?  Also, have you ever started with a bunch of Heal clogging your hand ?
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Against the old AI3, an epi rush had a sub 6.0 ttw. Whilw prolly not as fast now, I still think epis would be faster pure from the quanta aspect of the mono.

 

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