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Electric Chimera https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50498.msg1088922#msg1088922
« on: July 25, 2013, 07:47:21 pm »
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Built in response to the oracle giving me a chimera as my card of the day...
At first I was like ... What the **** am I supposed to do with 5 chimeras?... Then my brain sparked an idea :)

Strategy is simple, Salvagers and SoFo provide the hp, sparks provide the attack power. Play salvagers and SoFo first, then fractal the ball lightenings and POOF you get a beefy chimera. Often exceeding 20|20.
My best so far was a 32|103

SoFo is probably not widely available, so Armagios can probably be substituted instead... That gives a little more survivability to the setup, but you will lose PC capability in doing so.

Any suggestions are welcome. I've only tested it on poor hapless level 3 AI's so far, but I get some pretty impressive sized chimeras in a decent amount of time, so maybe theres potential.
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Re: Electric Chimera https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50498.msg1088924#msg1088924
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2013, 07:53:19 pm »
My best so far was a 32|103

Sounds like you need a catapult or two.

edit: Now that I think about it, fractal armagio plus catapult could be a lot of fun.

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Re: Electric Chimera https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50498.msg1089043#msg1089043
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2013, 04:10:51 pm »
Armagedo + Fractal + Chimera + Catapult (OTK?)
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Fuck!!! Damage is way capped getting 68 on a 200 + monster to get even 100 you need a 300+ monster it seems.

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Re: Electric Chimera https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50498.msg1089045#msg1089045
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2013, 04:16:55 pm »
Armagedo + Fractal + Chimera + Catapult (OTK?)
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Fuck!!! Damage is way capped getting 68 on a 200 + monster to get even 100 you need a 300+ monster it seems.

Add a freeze maybe?

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Re: Electric Chimera https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50498.msg1089047#msg1089047
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2013, 04:24:50 pm »
Yea that works better.

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This at least beats an AI3 and AI4 now...  The stall isn't enough for most FGs...

Further tweaking by someone will be needed...  but it's an idea.

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Re: Electric Chimera https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50498.msg1089049#msg1089049
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2013, 04:41:50 pm »
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Armagedo + Fractal + Chimera + Catapult (OTK?)
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Fuck!!! Damage is way capped getting 68 on a 200 + monster to get even 100 you need a 300+ monster it seems.

Last time I checked, I think 200 damage was not possible with one Catapult toss (did you mean one 'pult toss or one "turn" of possibly multiple tosses?).

Formula for damage is:

(Damage dealt) = [(Target creature HP) * 100] / [(Target creature HP) + 100] with a conditional bonus of * 1.5 if the target creature is frozen.

Working through the math again just now, I arrived at and recall the maximum damage from one catapult toss being 149 damage dealt - and that is with at least 14,900 HP creature (so not currently possible within confines of Elements).

I used limit 1.5*(100 * x / (100 + x)), x->∞ which results in 150 damage with an infinite HP creature.
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Re: Electric Chimera https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50498.msg1089094#msg1089094
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2013, 09:01:52 pm »
That's what I found out, didn't know the equation though...  that's good to know.  Too bad

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Re: Electric Chimera https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50498.msg1089096#msg1089096
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2013, 09:09:17 pm »
That's what I found out, didn't know the equation though...  that's good to know.  Too bad

For FGs like miracle and such, you can go pseudo-OTK and get a field full of armagio and two catapults in play, plus an armagio, two chimera, and a fractal (and a freeze or two if necessary - haven't done the math on total damage) in-hand, then chimera the field, toss it, armagio, fractal, dump armagios, chimera, toss that one also.

That's really a stretch though so against anything that doesn't spam healing you're probably a lot better just chipping away.

 

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