Gravity/Earth Denial

[xdude]

Obviously... PA owns this...

PA?

Protect Artifact. And while it does make it harder, it's not exactly 'insta-lose'. It's mostly rainbow that run PA anyway, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Plus...if you set up a deck specifically to beat another deck...you probably will, even if you don't win simply because of the fact that the AI is retarded.

I was replying to this:

I faced an unupgraded version of this in pvp and destroyed it with earth mark aether.

[OneEyedKing]

I've been running this list except UNupgraded against the top50.

It's winning about 40% of the time. Not bad at all.

I think I'm running 3 Chargers and 4 Dragons, just for a little extra firepower. I found that un-upped Chargers, especially against all the dumb Shard of Gratitudes running around, just weren't killing people fast enough.

Also, I'm running 12 Gravity and 1 Stone pillar. This is because You want to start attacking their quantums on turn 2, and running a lower pillar count was making me wait too long.

[darkfrogger]

this is working very well vs top 50. i have titan and 6 chargers (only two of them upped)

[harakirinosaru]

Obviously... PA owns this...

PA?

Protect Artifact. And while it does make it harder, it's not exactly 'insta-lose'. It's mostly rainbow that run PA anyway, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Plus...if you set up a deck specifically to beat another deck...you probably will, even if you don't win simply because of the fact that the AI is retarded.

I was replying to this:

I faced an unupgraded version of this in pvp and destroyed it with earth mark aether.

I realized, I was replying to this as well.

[PuppyChow]

The way I see it, there's two different ways to use Black Hole effectively in a duo deck, and each excel and beating different types of decks.

Gravity/Earth: As shown, completely owns rainbows.

Gravity/Entropy (mark of Entropy): Same concept as shown, but with 3-4 discords instead of quicksands and some more grav towers/grav shield/otys. This type beats mono and duo (and trio) decks easier (though obviously not as handily as the earth one does rainbows).

[o_BLaDE_o]

sweet...

just play with it, 20 wins against the top50 in a raw(not even1 loose..)
seems like we got overpowered deck after all ^^ (for pvp)

[becarem]

*Shakes head*  Very, very effective.

Hate to be a jerk by saying "I told you so", but I was certain this would eventually happen. 

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1865.msg29056.html

Sadly, it is not as easy to fix as Sundial, for that is but one OP card...

[Jumbalumba]

This 'overpowered'-ness is justified in my opinion. Rainbow is far and away too popular.

Earth/Gravity is good against most other decks but there are a lot more counters to it than there are to rainbow.

[PuppyChow]

Agreed. Any mono/duo deck with creature control (like owl's eye) or protect artifact or even a deck thats just faster will beat this one. It's just that since T50 is predominantly rainbow, this deck does very good.

[Rahlious]

I'm experimenting with NONE upgraded decks against the T50 and gave this deck a try, but unfortunatley I didn't find it as effective as others have.  Ran into too many of decks loaded with Shards of Gratitude.   Modified the deck to have more fire power, but still didn't work that great.   I'm not bashing the deck as it does work, but I'm not getting a high win rate as others have for some reason. 

Adding in a few upgraded cards, makes a big difference, especially if it is a pulverizer or 2, but I'm playing with none upgraded decks, so that is a no go.

Also trieds the entropy version, but I found the discord more of a liability as it gets stolen often.  Once this happens, it is usually game over.

So far, I have had the best luck using the Fire Bolt / Unstable Gas deck.  It has some weaknesses also, but it works pretty well for a none upgraded deck against the T50.   I'm still experimenting.

[darkfrogger]

Yeah im using an unupgraded deck but i have 2 titans and 2 of my chargers upped for more fire power. I was also running some dragons for a time.

[Catalystal]

well, i am using an unupgraded version of this since im a bit poor, and replaced some chargers with a titan and a dragon. its worked really well so far, but if your opponent uses protect artifact (i think someone already mentioned this, but eh) it all goes down in smoke. i suppose you can still win, but if they only use one type of tower you cant do much about it.