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Scaredgirl

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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

@ Jellyfish

You were right, and I was wrong.

I did some vigorous testing with this deck this is what I found to be the most effective:



While in some situations Bone Wall + Plague was awesome, it usually just slowed you down, and the worst part is that Bone Wall is very expensive. When you get rid of them you can take 4 extra water cards. With 6 Physalias and Congeals, you generally have at least one of each in your starting hand which is very important. Having only a mark to play for these was not as big of a problem as I thought.

It's good to have 2 Arsenics so that you get one relative early. Once the opponent gets his shields up, Arsenic is pretty much useless. Arsenics could also be replaced but I didn't find anything better. One option would be to take that death shield because it costs only 1 quantum but I didn't find it to be that great. Also some kind of permanent removal would be awesome but that's just not possible.

You could play this with 9 Towers as well but I like to have some extra quantum production just in case.

This is an awesome deck that pretty much owns most of the top-50 decks. It's surprisingly fast for a poison deck. Mono death seems to be the biggest its weakness.

vice123

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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

Has anyone here tried using dials in the pure poison deck? They have no cost and stall the game for 2 rounds, sound great for a poisoners. I'll try this one in the trainer.

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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

Has anyone here tried using dials in the pure poison deck? They have no cost and stall the game for 2 rounds, sound great for a poisoners. I'll try this one in the trainer.
I tried this same deck with just 6 upgraded Sundials added earlier today. They helped when I fought Gods but against a human player they just slow things down. One option would be to take 2-3 of them and save them to the endgame. Then when you are just about to die, start chaining them and hope that the opponent dies (and doesn't destroy/steal your Sundials).

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« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

The problem with testing sundials in the trainer is that they are still broken. However, I've noticed that, in the trainer, Sundials work HOW THEY SHOULD for the AI players, which is very frustrating.

@Scaredgirl: I'd run two Arsenics if I had them. I'll try to win another from Morte. If I do manage to get another one, I'd build the deck you have above. However, with what I have now, I like my build a tad more. Also, Stolen Sundials still work for both players but, like a Dim Shield, they expire a turn earlier.

Scaredgirl

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« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

The problem with testing sundials in the trainer is that they are still broken. However, I've noticed that, in the trainer, Sundials work HOW THEY SHOULD for the AI players, which is very frustrating.

Actually with this deck Sundials work perfectly. If you don't draw any extra cards, Sundials lasts 2 turns like in non-trainer version. And you probably won't be drawing any extra cards because you have no light quantum. :)

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« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

The problem with testing sundials in the trainer is that they are still broken. However, I've noticed that, in the trainer, Sundials work HOW THEY SHOULD for the AI players, which is very frustrating.

Actually with this deck Sundials work perfectly. If you don't draw any extra cards, Sundials lasts 2 turns like in non-trainer version. And you probably won't be drawing any extra cards because you have no light quantum. :)
Though sometimes, even when I didn't Hasten, they still only lasted one turn for me. This happened randomly, and often it was gamebreaking, as I thought I was safe for an extra turn, and then suddenly, BAM!. Perhaps they last one turn less even if your OPPONENT draws, since this happens when I use an Hourglass, too.

vice123

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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

This deck is for fighting AI only I presume? Dials don't get stolen or deflaged by the computer, which would give it a lot more oomph fighting top50. I wouldn't use it against anything else though.

Scaredgirl

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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

This deck is for fighting AI only I presume? Dials don't get stolen or deflaged by the computer, which would give it a lot more oomph fighting top50. I wouldn't use it against anything else though.
Well, I've done some PvP and duels with it and haven't lost once. Although I won one duel with only 5 HP left.

You don't need Sundials to fight top-50. They are very easy. That basic rainbow gets owned by this deck. They will die before they even have a chance to use Miracle.

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« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

Though sometimes, even when I didn't Hasten, they still only lasted one turn for me. This happened randomly, and often it was gamebreaking, as I thought I was safe for an extra turn, and then suddenly, BAM!. Perhaps they last one turn less even if your OPPONENT draws, since this happens when I use an Hourglass, too.
I'm not sure if I understand that last part.. are you saying opponents Sundial lasts only one turn when YOU use Hourglass? Or something else?

You probably know this but you cannot draw any cards from Sundial OR Hourglass. If you do, Sundial only lasts one turn.

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« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

I'm saying that MY Sundials only stop me for ONE turn when my OPPONENT uses Hasten with their own Hourglasses.

Evil Hamster

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« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

Unupgraded this deck gets stomped by top 50  :'(

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« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:54 pm »

Unupgraded this deck gets stomped by top 50  :'(
Yes, it does. I designed this deck to be fully upgraded, because I'm currently trying to find a non-rainbow endgame deck that I will mainstream if I ever get into the t50.

 

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