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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg388440#msg388440
« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2011, 09:50:19 am »
It's better to deck Lionheart out imo. Btw Dj eternity can be put up earlier than shields to kill lionheart, so you can kill him, just saying.
CAN, 5 wins is still very unlikely.

He was quoting my post where I talked about the upped version. Next time check who you're talking to?
Oh, the maths very different with upped ghosts; do they have 9 attack?

I still think Ferox will be very tricky though...
Yes, upped Ghosts have 9 attack. And I wasn't lying when I said I'm 5-0-all-EM in both of those matchups.
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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg388814#msg388814
« Reply #49 on: September 04, 2011, 08:04:12 am »
  deck     Fast-Draw God-killer (original)   
  players     Djhopper :)   
  version    1.285 
  win-rate     10%   
  $ track ?    disabled 
  win-rate (n)     n.a.   
  games    100 
  Score/h     -1158 ~   
  win-loss-(EM)     10-90-(0)   
  Score/h (n)    n.a.   
  time (h:m:s)     01:39:58   
  FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  1098   
  min/game     01:00   
  FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  n.a.   
      Statmasta™4000                                                                *assumed card-spin/win: 35%      
      
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   -72000
   -763
   -48000
   -46286
   -2700
   -48000
   -46286
   -43200
   -24923
   -43200
   -48000
   -54000
   -48000
   -27000   
   -57176
   644 ~
   -1831
   -230
   420 ~
   -48000
   -54000
   -36000
   -54000
   -43200
   638 ~
   -30857
   -36000
   -240 ~
   -39273
   -72000
   -763
   -48000
   -46286
   -2700
   -48000
   -46286
   -43200
   -24923
   -43200
   -48000
   -54000
   -48000
   -27000   
   -57176
   4257
   -1831
   -230
   2967
   -48000
   -54000
   -36000
   -54000
   -43200
   4091
   -30857
   -36000
   1861
   -39273
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Chaos Lord
Dark Matter
Decay
Destiny
Divine Glory
Dream Catcher
Elidnis
Eternal Phoenix
Ferox
Fire Queen
Gemini
Graviton
Hecate
Hermes
Incarnate
Jezebel
Lionheart
Miracle
Morte
Neptune
Obliterator
Octane
Osiris
Paradox
Rainbow
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100 game stats. Still feeling quite unlucky looking at other Phase-Shield Stall Decks...

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25609.0.html
Other decks that stall with phase shields:
Fire lance sudden-killer: 17.02% win-rate
Flay 'em!: 32.65% win-rate (how much difference can a miracle make?)
As you can see; I've played all the Gods; but I've lost the code for the "Normalized Win-rate" box. Anyone know what it is?

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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg388817#msg388817
« Reply #50 on: September 04, 2011, 08:10:16 am »
Are you having trouble downloading a working copy of Jangoo's Statmasta?

Also, you need 3 games vs each god in order to generate normalized overall stats.

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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg388821#msg388821
« Reply #51 on: September 04, 2011, 08:14:59 am »
Are you having trouble downloading a working copy of Jangoo's Statmasta?

Also, you need 3 games vs each god in order to generate normalized overall stats.
Oh...

I've got Statmasta, but I think I messed up that one square...

3 games... Grrr...

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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg388826#msg388826
« Reply #52 on: September 04, 2011, 08:30:33 am »
I've got Statmasta, but I think I messed up that one square...

3 games... Grrr...
Right, I'm suggesting that you download it again and copy that square over to your current sheet.

3 games are a bare minimum to get some sort of an average between "lucky wins" "random losses" and normal matches vs each FG.
The trainer can be used for FGs that aren't affected by any patch changes since the patch number shown in the trainer, though.

Hope that helps, and good luck!

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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg389129#msg389129
« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2011, 11:53:59 pm »
Hey, any recommended upgrading order?

EDIT: I ask because lack of aether is quite usual, so idk if upping first hourglasses or fractals.
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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg389147#msg389147
« Reply #54 on: September 05, 2011, 01:16:25 am »
Hourglasses are a definite first. They massively decrease time usage. 
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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg389149#msg389149
« Reply #55 on: September 05, 2011, 01:22:17 am »
Hourglasses are a definite first. They massively decrease time usage.
and then? i have playing upped version in the trainer and even upped there are some quanta issues...
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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg389150#msg389150
« Reply #56 on: September 05, 2011, 01:26:05 am »
I would say towers, but Dj might have a better answer.
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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg389168#msg389168
« Reply #57 on: September 05, 2011, 02:23:58 am »
Hourglasses are a definite first. They massively decrease time usage.
and then? i have playing upped version in the trainer and even upped there are some quanta issues...
if you have shards, they are to be upped first for sure.
otherwise I think maybe upgrade ghost, fractal and shield, as these are also needed in other decks and they'll be more cost effective, and upped ghosts make huge difference.

for quanta issue, I'd suggest adding time factory to maybe 14

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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg389170#msg389170
« Reply #58 on: September 05, 2011, 02:34:26 am »
It's better to deck Lionheart out imo. Btw Dj eternity can be put up earlier than shields to kill lionheart, so you can kill him, just saying.
CAN, 5 wins is still very unlikely.

He was quoting my post where I talked about the upped version. Next time check who you're talking to?
Oh, the maths very different with upped ghosts; do they have 9 attack?

I still think Ferox will be very tricky though...
Yes, upped Ghosts have 9 attack. And I wasn't lying when I said I'm 5-0-all-EM in both of those matchups.
I wasn't saying that you're lying and didn't mean to offense, I was just thinking that's still lucky on some FGs. I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear.

Ferox don't need to outheal you completely,  as you can draw a lot of cards, you generally will pack several shields in hand, thus your fractal won't be at full efficiency, and you cannot fractal it early as you have to wait not to drain your quanta and break shield chain, thus ferox only needs to slow you down and you probably won't be able to kill before you run out of shield.

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Re: Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29973.msg389176#msg389176
« Reply #59 on: September 05, 2011, 02:55:57 am »
It's better to deck Lionheart out imo. Btw Dj eternity can be put up earlier than shields to kill lionheart, so you can kill him, just saying.
CAN, 5 wins is still very unlikely.

He was quoting my post where I talked about the upped version. Next time check who you're talking to?
Oh, the maths very different with upped ghosts; do they have 9 attack?

I still think Ferox will be very tricky though...
Yes, upped Ghosts have 9 attack. And I wasn't lying when I said I'm 5-0-all-EM in both of those matchups.
I wasn't saying that you're lying and didn't mean to offense, I was just thinking that's still lucky on some FGs. I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear.

Ferox don't need to outheal you completely,  as you can draw a lot of cards, you generally will pack several shields in hand, thus your fractal won't be at full efficiency, and you cannot fractal it early as you have to wait not to drain your quanta and break shield chain, thus ferox only needs to slow you down and you probably won't be able to kill before you run out of shield.
Let's just sum it all up in one sentence: You can never beat Ferox with this deck without him getting a really shit draw (No Feral Bonds, a lack of creatures). You NEED 3+ Eternities (2 or more Flown, obviously) or he'll outheal then just beat you down after your shields are expired.
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