Fast-Draw False-God Killer [un-upped] [time] [aether] [awesome]

[moonlighting]

Looks pretty similar to IGT (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22028.0.html), cept unupped and less FG card drawing control.
How well does it do?

For an un-upped deck, very. Shall I start recording some results?

This is unupped. I NEED 100 GAME STATS AND WILL SEE IT NOW

Ok, I'll start recording stats.

I'd like to see the results. from a first glance, I don't think it will be a successful deck, as you have no healing, and phase shield is very expensive, you'll need to play at least 4 pendulums to get enough quanta to support a chain, and then it conflicts with fractal, you can hardly get enough quanta for fractal unless you're lucky to draw almost all of the pendulums early.

[Djhopper :)]

I'd like to see the results. from a first glance, I don't think it will be a successful deck, as you have no healing, and phase shield is very expensive, you'll need to play at least 4 pendulums to get enough quanta to support a chain, and then it conflicts with fractal, you can hardly get enough quanta for fractal unless you're lucky to draw almost all of the pendulums early.

3 actually (well, you can survive on two but three gives you extra quanta which you need to fractal (slowly); mabye you forgot mark?
    Produced  Total Quanta
1. 3+1          4
2. 0+1          5
3. 3+1          9-6(=3)
4. 0+1          4       
5. 3+1          8
6. 0+1          9-6(=3)
    Produced  Total Quanta
1. 2+1          3
2. 0+1          4
3. 2+1          7-6(=1)
4. 0+1          2     
5. 2+1          5
6. 0+1          6-6(=0)
Also, remember you draw very fast, which means you draw pends more often than you'd think

[raytsang]

Awesome FG killer deck !!!!!!!!!
2 out of 3 win on first 3 trials using trainer

And I just need to buy the ghost of the past x 2.

Just a simple question, if I want to have a upped version of this deck.
What is your suggestion about the sequence of which card should I UP first?

[Djhopper :)]

Awesome FG killer deck !!!!!!!!!
2 out of 3 win on first 3 trials using trainer

Probably got lucky gods but thanks anyway!

Just a simple question, if I want to have a upped version of this deck.
What is your suggestion about the sequence of which card should I UP first?

ALWAYS upgrade hourglasses first because you can use them in many other good god-killing decks.

[raytsang]

Thanks for reply, 4 hourglasses upped now
Just win 2 cards from 3 spins 

[Djhopper :)]

Ok, so I've got some preliminary stats (sorry, only 50 games)

deck	Fast-Draw FG Killer (original)
players	Djhopper

version	1.285		win-rate	10%
$ track ?	disabled		win-rate (n)	n.a.
games	50		Score/h	n.a.
win-loss-(EM)	5-45-(0)		Score/h (n)	n.a.
time (h:m:s)	n.a.		FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	n.a.
min/game	n.a.		FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	n.a.

      Statmasta™4000                                                                *assumed card-spin/win: 35%   

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score/h	FGei(c)	Statmasta™4000	wins	losses	skips	EM/Wins
n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.       n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.	n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.       n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.	Akebono Chaos Lord Dark Matter Decay Destiny Divine Glory Dream Catcher Elidnis Eternal Phoenix Ferox Fire Queen Gemini Graviton Hecate Hermes Incarnate Jezebel Lionheart Miracle Morte Neptune Obliterator Octane Osiris Paradox Rainbow Scorpio Seism Serket	1                                             1                                    3	1                                              1                                                 1	1    2    2    2        1        2    1    2    4    5    1    1    4        1            3    4        2    3            1

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10% win-rate (5 wins) after only actually playing out 8 games (three loses were from: Forgeting to play a PS, an air nymph from a fate egg and from forgeting about seism's stone-skins) This is much worse than I was expecting BUT I'm sure these stats will improve over time.
      
   
      

[Sevs]

Ok, so I've got some preliminary stats (sorry, only 50 games)

deck	Fast-Draw FG Killer (original)
players	Djhopper

version	1.285		win-rate	10%
$ track ?	disabled		win-rate (n)	n.a.
games	50		Score/h	n.a.
win-loss-(EM)	5-45-(0)		Score/h (n)	n.a.
time (h:m:s)	n.a.		FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	n.a.
min/game	n.a.		FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	n.a.

      Statmasta™4000                                                                *assumed card-spin/win: 35%   

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score/h	FGei(c)	Statmasta™4000	wins	losses	skips	EM/Wins
n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.       n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.	n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.       n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.    n.a.	Akebono Chaos Lord Dark Matter Decay Destiny Divine Glory Dream Catcher Elidnis Eternal Phoenix Ferox Fire Queen Gemini Graviton Hecate Hermes Incarnate Jezebel Lionheart Miracle Morte Neptune Obliterator Octane Osiris Paradox Rainbow Scorpio Seism Serket	1                                             1                                    3	1                                              1                                                 1	1    2    2    2        1        2    1    2    4    5    1    1    4        1            3    4        2    3            1

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10% win-rate (5 wins) after only actually playing out 8 games (three loses were from: Forgeting to play a PS, an air nymph from a fate egg and from forgeting about seism's stone-skins) This is much worse than I was expecting BUT I'm sure these stats will improve over time.

They will definitely improve because miracle, serket, and lionheart should be easy wins. On another note, why do you skip so many gods? I think Ferox, eldinis, and chaos lord should be entirely beatable with this deck.

[agentflare]

I like the feel of the deck. I recommend testing again because you skipped A LOT. When testing, don't skip unless you tried playing them and you're surely going to lose (like 1 turn from losing with no chance of top-decking a lifesaver.)

[Djhopper :)]

They will definitely improve because miracle, serket, and lionheart should be easy wins. On another note, why do you skip so many gods? I think Ferox, eldinis, and chaos lord should be entirely beatable with this deck.

I think Ferox might have to much healing (now testing on trainer) and chaos lord's shield slows you too much whilst he kills your creatures (but I'll test that too) No idea why I skipped Elidnis...

[omegareaper7]

They will definitely improve because miracle, serket, and lionheart should be easy wins. On another note, why do you skip so many gods? I think Ferox, eldinis, and chaos lord should be entirely beatable with this deck.

I think Ferox might have to much healing (now testing on trainer) and chaos lord's shield slows you too much whilst he kills your creatures (but I'll test that too) No idea why I skipped Elidnis...

Chaos lord doesn't have THAT much CC, only maxwells, even then, you should get a few turns from each of the fractals.

[Polari]

Not bad at all.

Im using it upped like this:

by Polari

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7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q8 7q8 7qe 7qe 7ri 7ri 7ri 7ri 7ri 7ri 7ri 7ri 80d 80d 80d 80d 80d 80d 80i 80i 8pu

I have found it to be FASTER than IGT, with little loss in performance.  In fact, the speed compensates for any loss in winrate.

Thank you for providing yet another FG killer

I endorse this product.

edit - I started collecting stats while playing, see here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_GB&hl=en_GB&key=0AgxDeoyDoRYZdGltLUNHXzF6WXlMbFUtNnZGcjBwSkE&output=html). No fancy time or efficiency stats since I'm usually doing something else while playing so those would be out of whack anyway. Only a handful of games now but I played a bunch before I started logging and so far it's seemed crazy good.

edit 2 - Added 3 Shards after 35 games, no other changes, stats in separate sheets. Gonna stop for tonight, so far the version with Shards won all 7 games I played with it with 6 EMs.

[Baily18]

Played 50 games, took stats.
                 Wins/Losses
Morte             0/1
Serket            1/2
Seism             0/3
Hermes           0/3
Octane            0/2
Osiris              0/1
Paradox          1/0
Chaos Lord      1/1
Hecate            0/3
EP                   0/2
Jezebel            0/6
Destiny           1/2
Fire Queen      0/2
Akebono         0/3
Miracle           2/1
Divine Glory    0/2
Neptune         0/1
Gemini           1/1
Scorpio          0/1
Decay            0/2
Graviton         0/1
Dark Matter    0/1
Ferox             0/1
DC                 0/1
                     7/43                       
7/50 Wins=14%
Notes:
Poison, lack of pillars in opening draw, lack of dimshields in opening draw, PC, Momentum, Direct Damage, Heavy CC and some forms of denial can kill you.
I had bad luck against Serket. 1 loss came from lack of quanta to keep dimshield chain going early, and the other came from dimshields going up too late.
Unupped Hourglasses are really costly.