*Author

turin

  • Guest
Earth/time: Seism style https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=674.msg6539#msg6539
« on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:02 pm »
This is a simple-simple deck for pvp. Concept is simple: make enemy slow while attacking fast!

Basic idea deck:
Hover over cards for details, click for permalink
Deck import code : [Select]
778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 77j 77j 77j 77j 77j 77j 7q4 7q4 7q4 7q4 7q4 7q4 8ps


Due to his need of the mark quanta and because of the lack of anti-permanent power (exept for towers) this deck tents to fear particular situations that make winning impossible:

- devourers will truly spoil your tactic if eating you time quanta
- hyper-defensive deck will make things really difficult
- needs improvements: with this built wont work so good

But there are even some good things:

- mono/duo decks will suffer a lot from pillar denial

Improvements:
- adding anti-permanent with pulverizers and some gravity tower (or some time tower and gravity mark). I'm working on it searching for the good balance between cards, seems that to work good needs more time quanta and some draw hastening.
- make it a eternity+enhance artifact-flying weapon deck could be truly better than relying on reverse time.

In the end, i posted just the idea, searching for help to find the best way to exploit time/earth with a RT+EQ deck

Edit:
Variations:

Pure seism style: Eternity + Protect Artifact variation
Improves: far more damage resistance (shields), strong against same tactic (Protecting towers), eternal rewind (uses abilities instead of spells), better against devourers
Unresolved: no permanent control, only 2 anti-creature cards
Hover over cards for details, click for permalink
Deck import code : [Select]
778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 77c 77c 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 77i 77i 77i 77j 77j 77j 77j 77j 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q8 7q8 8ps



« Last Edit: June 13, 2012, 12:04:26 am by willng3 »

Gamerr

  • Guest
Earth/time: Seism style https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=674.msg6540#msg6540
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:02 pm »

Hey, nice deck :p

But, I'm quite sure you mean "TIME MARK"

Am i correct?   :o

Offline Belthus

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 482
  • Reputation Power: 1
  • Belthus is a Spark waiting for a buff.
Earth/time: Seism style https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=674.msg6541#msg6541
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:02 pm »

I definitely vote for Eternity plus Enchant/Protect Artifact. Also, it seems a waste of a Time deck not to put in at least a couple of Hourglasses.

Scaredgirl

  • Guest
Earth/time: Seism style https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=674.msg6542#msg6542
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:02 pm »

I definitely vote for Eternity plus Enchant/Protect Artifact. Also, it seems a waste of a Time deck not to put in at least a couple of Hourglasses.
You won't get my vote. Mark of time is not enough to pay for Hourglasses let alone Eternity. You need Towers to pay for those which would chance this whole deck.

I would probably drop 2 Quicksand and take 2 Shriekers to get more damage. No 30 card deck needs 6 Quicksand.

Offline Essence

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4340
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 57
  • Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.Essence is truly a Titan, worthy of respect and acknowledgement.
  • Voice of the Oracle -- Jezzie's Pimp -- Often Gone
  • Awards: 2nd Trials - Master of Water1st Trials - Master of WaterFG Deck-Designer - The OutcastsShard Madness! Competition WinnerEpic 3 Card Design Competition WinnerElder Recruiter
Earth/time: Seism style https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=674.msg6818#msg6818
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:03 pm »

As much as I am loathe to disgree with ScaredGirl, I've had good luck running 2 Hourglasses in a deck with a time mark.

I'm not so sure about 2 Hourglasses, 6 Graboids, and 6 Rewinds, though.  In my deck, the mark only powered 6 Sundials and 2 Hourglasses, and it was taxed to it's limit - unable to draw a card on turns when I had to put a Sundial down. :)
If something happens and you think it deserves my attention, feel free to PM me. Other than that, I'm probably here if you want to shoot the breeze.

turin

  • Guest
Earth/time: Seism style https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=674.msg6819#msg6819
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:03 pm »

As much as I am loathe to disgree with ScaredGirl, I've had good luck running 2 Hourglasses in a deck with a time mark.

I'm not so sure about 2 Hourglasses, 6 Graboids, and 6 Rewinds, though.  In my deck, the mark only powered 6 Sundials and 2 Hourglasses, and it was taxed to it's limit - unable to draw a card on turns when I had to put a Sundial down. :)
I think you should switch to upgraded sundials if so.
Btw, i got smashed by this deck some second ago in pvp...:(

Offline Dragoon

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1551
  • Reputation Power: 0
  • Dragoon hides under a Cloak.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeWinner of Team PvP #5Winner of Rags to Riches - PvP Event
Earth/time: Seism style https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=674.msg6820#msg6820
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:03 pm »

Yeah, I played against jpg I think who has an Earth/Time plus gravity mark deck.  He used quicksands, rewinds, eternity, pulverizer, animate weapon, diamond shield, graboids, earth and time towers.  Honestly, I have no idea how he balanced it and fit it into a 30 card deck, but he beat me twice with it.

Earth/time: Seism style https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=674.msg6821#msg6821
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:03 pm »

Yeah, I played against jpg I think who has an Earth/Time plus gravity mark deck.  He used quicksands, rewinds, eternity, pulverizer, animate weapon, diamond shield, graboids, earth and time towers.  Honestly, I have no idea how he balanced it and fit it into a 30 card deck, but he beat me twice with it.
I faced him once. He almost beat me with it, but I pulled out a nice win because he never got his shield out. Poison saved my ass, lol, but it was an amazing deck, and I think that if those dual Towers ever come out, I wouldn't be surprised to see decks like his all over.

Scaredgirl

  • Guest
Earth/time: Seism style https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=674.msg6822#msg6822
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:03 pm »

As much as I am loathe to disgree with ScaredGirl, I've had good luck running 2 Hourglasses in a deck with a time mark.

I'm not so sure about 2 Hourglasses, 6 Graboids, and 6 Rewinds, though.  In my deck, the mark only powered 6 Sundials and 2 Hourglasses, and it was taxed to it's limit - unable to draw a card on turns when I had to put a Sundial down. :)
Yep, it all depends on how much Time quantum you are using already, and how many cards you have. This deck uses Time 12 quantum and has 30 cards so it would be absolutely insane to take any Hourglasses.

I personally never use cards that cost more than 2 quantum if I only have a mark to pay for them. I like getting the cards out early.

turin

  • Guest
Earth/time: Seism style https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=674.msg6823#msg6823
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:03 pm »

Yeah, I played against jpg I think who has an Earth/Time plus gravity mark deck.  He used quicksands, rewinds, eternity, pulverizer, animate weapon, diamond shield, graboids, earth and time towers.  Honestly, I have no idea how he balanced it and fit it into a 30 card deck, but he beat me twice with it.
Yep, i faced him too. I won all time because is a deck too fragile against permanents (if you get a pulv on before him there's nothing he can do) and i had a flying weapons deck. But in the hand of a human player could be a strong deck.
I'd like to know card balance because seemed to work almost everytime i faced it, even if slitting quanta in 3 different elements. I think the key is in having more time, then relying on hastening to find gravity pillars. Just an earth/time with a gravity touch

Offline Dragoon

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1551
  • Reputation Power: 0
  • Dragoon hides under a Cloak.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeWinner of Team PvP #5Winner of Rags to Riches - PvP Event
Earth/time: Seism style https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=674.msg6824#msg6824
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:03 pm »

Quote
Yep, i faced him too. I won all time because is a deck too fragile against permanents (if you get a pulv on before him there's nothing he can do) and i had a flying weapons deck. But in the hand of a human player could be a strong deck.
I'd like to know card balance because seemed to work almost everytime i faced it, even if slitting quanta in 3 different elements. I think the key is in having more time, then relying on hastening to find gravity pillars. Just an earth/time with a gravity touch
Yeah, I would think his deck would have trouble with bad draws, but he seemed to do pretty good with it.  He told me he was still tweaking it, but he seemed to always have the cards he needed when I played him.  I also was using a flying weapons deck with pulvies, EE, and Ulithards.  Somehow, in both games he was able to fly a pulvy and have an eternity sitting in the weapon slot.  And the one time I stole his eternity and flew it, he rewinded it back into my hand.  I'd like to chalk it up to bad draws on my side (which I did have somewhat), but he played his deck well.

turin

  • Guest
Earth/time: Seism style https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=674.msg7098#msg7098
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:04 pm »

Found another way, again pure seism style (no permanent control):



This variation could be really more effective if you have to rewind many times a creature, and shields make it far more though

 

blarg: