Post by: Djhopper :) on November 10, 2011, 06:15:55 pm
This power will allow it to ally easily with element it choses, and back-stab when the time comes.
This power will give it to have the largest arsenal of decks of any element.
This power will crush the immortals, by stealing their petty shields, and sucking their life-force.
This power will ground the winged, slitting their wings with stilettos of shadow.
This power will overcome the death-worshipers, healing their wounds and removing their poisons from these lands.
This power will break the stone warriors, crushing them beneath its might.
This power will read a pattern in the randomness, undermining their nothing with genius.
This power will extinguish the fire with blankets of shadows.
This power will destroy the fatties, removing their pride with quick, accurate slices.
This power will end all life, darkening their once sunlit skies. Die photosynthesis!
This power will annihilate all traces of those who bask in the sun-light, absorbing them into the void.
This power will banish the time-worshippers, so they can reign forever in their glory.
This power will make the wet-lands dry, sucking up every last drop.
This power will WIN THE WOAR!
I have decided to make a duo deck for every element capable of kicking ASS. Once I have made them, I will test and tweak them against suitable opponents. They will be un-upped, war style decks.
Entropy
Randomly Killing Things
A domination style deck, that has a good chance to overcome almost any deck.
It can rush, suck and destroy anything the opponent can throw at you.
Death
The Shadow Death Casts
Once you have a wall up with some parasistes protecting it, nothing can stop you.
Half-blood Killing
16 Wins, 4 Loses
80% Win-rate
Tested by Puremisery
Updated with Puremisery's version. (+3 Steals)
Gravity
Accelerating Irritation
It annoys your opponent with steals, hax shields, black holes and night-mares whilst whitling away their health with acceleration/voo-doo.
Earth
Little Devils
This deck uses lots of little creatures to genarate enough quanta to get rolling, then gets rid of all enemy quanta.
AI3 Killing
Won 24, Lost 7
77.4% Win-rate
3 Elemental Masteries
10.3% EM-Rate
Tested by Alias
Life
Adrenavamps
I love adrenavamps. This version brings you:
- Evil quanta ninja's
- Cloaks
- And that authentic adrenavamps feel
Stall-bolter
Expecting a stall or something else slooooow? Use this.
Smashing through those shields like their not there is fun, but facing rushes with this isn't.
Water
Cold and Calculated
Should function a lot like a fire-stall. This needs more work than most of these decks :(
Light
Vader Sader
Pretty standard. It has vader-saders, devourers and dusk mantles. It is simple, yet effective.
Air
The Vampire Bat
Use wings to stop most of the enemies' damage>Heal anything that gets through>Win
Time
Hourglass One and Only is a Freakin' Nightmare!
Aether
DoubleHealz
Post by: Djhopper :) on November 11, 2011, 05:09:16 pm
:entropy Deck Created
:death Tested
:gravity Deck Created
:earth Tested
:life Deck Created
:fire Deck Created
:water Deck Created
:light Deck Created
:air Deck Created
:time Deck Created
:aether Deck Created
All done. Testing in progress.
Post by: Phaser on November 12, 2011, 12:49:10 am
Post by: Djhopper :) on November 12, 2011, 06:09:43 pm
Can you post the upgraded versions for this?I might do an upped version one day, but for now I feel that darkness should be wield-able by all.
what ai it is supposed to go against?I plan to do this when I do detailed tests for the decks. I will figure out what it is best at beating, then test against that.
Most decks will be PvP, but some just won't cut it and will be demoted to AI3. Some many even be good enough for bronze/silver arena.
Post by: Djhopper :) on November 14, 2011, 05:06:50 pm
Two to go!
Post by: Acsabi44 on November 15, 2011, 08:55:11 pm
You could do one War-style.
6GoTP
4RT
5 time pillars
(15 :time)
6 NM
2 Steal
1 Siletto
6 Dark pendulums
(15 :darkness)
Post by: Djhopper :) on November 16, 2011, 04:34:23 pm
I will use a NotP deck for time.
I am torn between Double Healz (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,33373.0.html) and a pestal for aether though :(
I am thinking mabye I should do "Double Healz" because is majorly untested. What do you think?
Post by: Contrary on November 16, 2011, 04:46:00 pm
These decks look pretty good though Fire and Water could use some work. Maybe for water like a Vampire/Freeze combo? Healing and CC is a legit synergy.
Post by: Djhopper :) on November 16, 2011, 04:48:07 pm
I like your PU Dragon deck and it's original.Fire is a pretty good stall breaker, so it does have a use; but the ice-stall isn't very good. I could do with some help on that one.
These decks look pretty good though Fire and Water could use some work. Maybe for water like a Vampire/Freeze combo? Healing and CC is a legit synergy.
Post by: Ekki on November 16, 2011, 04:59:11 pm
That looks pretty solid :)I say Double Healz sounds better, mostly since it's more original than Pestal (a GREAT deck anyways)... I have the same thought about NoTP, I'd want to see something more creative, but IDK what to add there...
I will use a NotP deck for time.
I am torn between "Double Healz" and a pestal for aether though :(
I am thinking mabye I should do "Double Healz" because is majorly untested. What do you think?
Now about the decks:
- I don't like how Vader Sader has no blessings... Y U NO BLESS THE VAMP CRUSADERS!? You could swap the devs for blessings and that's it...
- The Entropy deck could actually forget about Devs, mostly since the Discord would reduce their efectiveness (draining RANDOMLY USEFUL quanta is far less useful than draining just useful quanta :P ). You could add Drain Life's in there, so that you can kill more creatures, but it's up to you.
- Gravity one... Is Vodoo (the ability of vodoo dolls) a passive skill?? If it is, the synergy with Acceleration would be awesome! Anyways, that BH seems out of place... Draining any mono is very uneffective, mostly late-game, and rainbows can easily overcome just one BH, so I suggest keeping it simple and swapping the BH for another Nightmare (healing is good since it's a stall).
- Cold and calculated needs either some damage or healing, maybe even both. You can't just deckout your opponent without healing, and any deckout deck with 40> cards is too small.
- The bolt one is awesome :P it's so like: Zanz: ohhh, now I put a cap to quanta // That deck: nvm, I have two pools and 12 bolts *trollface* I may copy this deck someday in the future... I would like to see if you can effectively reach enough quanta before the fight is over, and the fact that you can't have all 12 bolts in your hand doesn't help a lot, but the idea is too cool to let it go ;D
BTW, I think you inspired me to do the same with Gravity ;D it's not as synergyc as Darkness, but I feel like I have to do it...
Post by: Djhopper :) on November 16, 2011, 05:14:13 pm
I'll do Double Healz. I can't think of anything Time/Darkness other that NotP, but I'll try to make it as original as possible.I am thinking mabye I should do "Double Healz" because is majorly untested. What do you think?I say Double Healz sounds better, mostly since it's more original than Pestal (a GREAT deck anyways)... I have the same thought about NoTP, I'd want to see something more creative, but IDK what to add there...
Now about the decks:It just doesn't synergise the same way unless you fly the daggers, then bless them. I think you underestimate the powers of ninja-devourers!
- I don't like how Vader Sader has no blessings... Y U NO BLESS THE VAMP CRUSADERS!? You could swap the devs for blessings and that's it...
- The Entropy deck could actually forget about Devs, mostly since the Discord would reduce their efectiveness (draining RANDOMLY USEFUL quanta is far less useful than draining just useful quanta :P ). You could add Drain Life's in there, so that you can kill more creatures, but it's up to you.With only two discords it's not worth it: You will often not draw a discord. When you do, devourers taking their useful quanta, then discord scrambling anything useful that your devourers don't eat if quite useful. Also, the devourers help balance the quanta.
- Gravity one... Is Voodoo (the ability of voodoo dolls) a passive skill??Corrected :PIfit is and the synergy with Acceleration is awesome! Anyways, that BH seems out of place... Draining any mono is very uneffective, mostly late-game, and rainbows can easily overcome just one BH, so I suggest keeping it simple and swapping the BH for another Nightmare (healing is good since it's a stall).
Also, I kinda like the chance to draw the only card that will save you against many decks. 36 healing and the dissruption it causes against rainbows is a game-winner.
- Cold and calculated needs either some damage or healing, maybe even both. You can't just deckout your opponent without healing, and any deckout deck with 40> cards is too small.I will have to add damage. (Also, I often use the drain-lifes on their health for healing)
Post by: Ekki on November 16, 2011, 05:41:53 pm
Yeah, last time I checked, there wasn't much to do there... Maybe just keep NoTP, but try to give it an original twistI'll do Double Healz. I can't think of anything Time/Darkness other that NotP, but I'll try to make it as original as possible.I am thinking mabye I should do "Double Healz" because is majorly untested. What do you think?I say Double Healz sounds better, mostly since it's more original than Pestal (a GREAT deck anyways)... I have the same thought about NoTP, I'd want to see something more creative, but IDK what to add there...
It synergises anyways, a blessed flying dagger is x3-4 more effective than a regular blessing, but a blessed vampire is x2 more effective than a regular blessing, anyways ;D it's still up to you (but I highly recommend that the upped version goes trio with the AW's)Now about the decks:It just doesn't synergise the same way unless you fly the daggers, then bless them. I think you underestimate the powers of ninja-devourers!
- I don't like how Vader Sader has no blessings... Y U NO BLESS THE VAMP CRUSADERS!? You could swap the devs for blessings and that's it...
Yeah, I see that of the quanta balance :P but my main idea was keeping it simple. So, I thought of just making a high-CC deck, that will have those Discords in (just because they're too cool 8) ). Again, up to you ;D- The Entropy deck could actually forget about Devs, mostly since the Discord would reduce their efectiveness (draining RANDOMLY USEFUL quanta is far less useful than draining just useful quanta :P ). You could add Drain Life's in there, so that you can kill more creatures, but it's up to you.With only two discords it's not worth it: You will often not draw a discord. When you do, devourers taking their useful quanta, then discord scrambling anything useful that your devourers don't eat if quite useful. Also, the devourers help balance the quanta.
Corrected :PYeah, my iz vad at engliss ::) also, too lazy to check :P
Yeah, that's the most common argument. But I can tell you, after half a year of randomly making decks thinking that way, that it's far less effective than what you notice. BH is a great card, and it's useful nearly all the time, but you'll notice that it's really effective only when packing 4-6 of them...- Gravity one... Is Voodoo (the ability of voodoo dolls) a passive skill??Ifit is and the synergy with Acceleration is awesome! Anyways, that BH seems out of place... Draining any mono is very uneffective, mostly late-game, and rainbows can easily overcome just one BH, so I suggest keeping it simple and swapping the BH for another Nightmare (healing is good since it's a stall).
Also, I kinda like the chance to draw the only card that will save you against many decks. 36 healing and the dissruption it causes against rainbows is a game-winner.
Yeah, I didn't counted the drain lifes since they're far from being enough (or from healing more than 6 hp each)- Cold and calculated needs either some damage or healing, maybe even both. You can't just deckout your opponent without healing, and any deckout deck with 40> cards is too small.I will have to add damage. (Also, I often use the drain-lifes on their health for healing)
Huh, that's a lot of writing :P
Post by: Djhopper :) on November 16, 2011, 05:48:51 pm
It synergises anyways, a blessed flying dagger is x3-4 more effective than a regular blessing, but a blessed vampire is x2 more effective than a regular blessing, anyways ;D it's still up to you (but I highly recommend that the upped version goes trio with the AW's)
I have decided to make a duo deck for every element capable of kicking ASS. Once I have made them, I will test and tweak them against suitable opponents. They will be un-upped, war style decks.Also: 8) Testing Time 8)
Post by: Ekki on November 16, 2011, 06:00:06 pm
Oh, that part of your text, forgot it ::)It synergises anyways, a blessed flying dagger is x3-4 more effective than a regular blessing, but a blessed vampire is x2 more effective than a regular blessing, anyways ;D it's still up to you (but I highly recommend that the upped version goes trio with the AW's)I have decided to make a duo deck for every element capable of kicking ASS. Once I have made them, I will test and tweak them against suitable opponents. They will be un-upped, war style decks.Also: 8) Testing Time 8)
Well, you can still have it 50% Darkness if you go only :darkness Pendulums (mostly since you wouldn't have your Dev's there), but I guess you can screw the whole AW thing :P
BTW, I like the time one, how's the regular NoTP deck? Because you could take out that Hourglass (you'd have to change the name of the deck *trollface*) and maybe a time pillar for 2 more RT's, they (like Nightmare) stop your opponent from drawing 1 turn, which should be exploited IMO.
Post by: Brontos on November 16, 2011, 06:34:46 pm
Water needs love. I see no synergy with darkness at all. Maybe a water rush deck with steals but it would be water centered and unupped water rush is meh. Or maybe just squids instead of freezes in your deck. Or maybe go the Cloak/Nymph path.
Post by: Contrary on November 18, 2011, 07:25:16 am
Post by: Brontos on November 18, 2011, 07:41:13 am
What about that?
Not sure if it's balanced in quantas, but it may be a little more agressive and stally.
Post by: the_unknown on November 19, 2011, 07:54:25 pm
Just noticed the Water deck has nothing to kill another player but the damage dealt by 3 squids and 3 drain life. :pactually theres 2 black dragons it looks like it could use more attack though you're right, its a cool thread though.
What about that?
Not sure if it's balanced in quantas, but it may be a little more agressive and stally.
Post by: Bladesrus on November 29, 2011, 07:44:09 pm
Post by: Alias on December 11, 2011, 12:39:30 pm
Earth : Little devils
Played : 31 / 50
Won : 24 / 31 Percentage : 77.4193548%
Lost : 7 / 31 Percentage : 23.5806452%
Elementally Mastered : 3 / 31 Percentage : 10.3333333%
Notes :
Establishes a quick lockdown in most games but lacks enough power to out-damage the few creatures that the enemy get out before they get locked down.
Post by: Phaser on December 14, 2011, 12:52:56 am
Currently testingNice!
Earth : Little devils
Played : 31 / 50
Won : 24 / 31 Percentage : 77.4193548%
Lost : 7 / 31 Percentage : 23.5806452%
Elementally Mastered : 3 / 31
Notes :
Establishes a quick lockdown in most games but lacks enough power to out-damage the few creatures that the enemy get out before they get locked down.
Post by: Alias on December 14, 2011, 03:57:46 pm
Post by: Phaser on December 14, 2011, 11:58:49 pm
Currently testingMay I help with the statistics?
Earth : Little devils
Played : 31 / 50
Won : 24 / 31 Percentage : 77.4193548%
Lost : 7 / 31 Percentage : 23.5806452%
Elementally Mastered : 3 / 31 Percentage : 10.3333333%
Notes :
Establishes a quick lockdown in most games but lacks enough power to out-damage the few creatures that the enemy get out before they get locked down.
Post by: Djhopper :) on December 15, 2011, 04:36:36 pm
Feel free. I suggest you use the statistics Alias used as well as TTW.Currently testingMay I help with the statistics?
Earth : Little devils
Played : 31 / 50
Won : 24 / 31 Percentage : 77.4193548%
Lost : 7 / 31 Percentage : 23.5806452%
Elementally Mastered : 3 / 31 Percentage : 10.3333333%
Notes :
Establishes a quick lockdown in most games but lacks enough power to out-damage the few creatures that the enemy get out before they get locked down.
Post by: Puremisery on December 15, 2011, 07:50:46 pm
I added 3 steals to the deck. I'm testing it as a AI3/Halfblood farmer. Granted adding these 3 cards takes it above the 30 mark, they are extremely effective. While testing the AI3/HB's, I would run into shields that reduced damage by1 inherently making the stalkers useless as I couldn't get an attack in. So I revamped with the steals. Thus far stats are:
With steals added: AI3 - 19w/1L HB 16w/4L
Without Steal: AI3 - 13w/7L HB 4w/16L
That basing off of 20 games, but the numbers don't lie. Either way it's a very effective deck for farming. Thanks DJ
Added boneyard and soulcatcher, 1 of each. They are both helpful with quant, damage, and keeping shield built up.
Post by: Contrary on December 15, 2011, 11:57:52 pm
Post by: Djhopper :) on December 16, 2011, 03:23:58 pm
Would you mind if I did a similar series?Sure... I'd love to see what you can come up with, so please post a link :)
Your Shadow Deaths Cast deck.80% win-rate against half-blood un-upped is pretty good. :P I'll update the OP with your tweaks and stats alongside Alias'.
I added 3 steals to the deck. I'm testing it as a AI3/Halfblood farmer. Granted adding these 3 cards takes it above the 30 mark, they are extremely effective. While testing the AI3/HB's, I would run into shields that reduced damage by1 inherently making the stalkers useless as I couldn't get an attack in. So I revamped with the steals. Thus far stats are:
With steals added: AI3 - 19w/1L HB 16w/4L
Without Steal: AI3 - 13w/7L HB 4w/16L
That basing off of 20 games, but the numbers don't lie. Either way it's a very effective deck for farming. Thanks DJ
Added boneyard and soulcatcher, 1 of each. They are both helpful with quant, damage, and keeping shield built up.
Post by: Alias on December 16, 2011, 04:56:26 pm
Post by: Djhopper :) on December 16, 2011, 06:38:33 pm
I will add ttw to the stats when I finish playing all 50 gamesThanks!
Post by: Phaser on December 16, 2011, 10:48:24 pm
Post by: Alias on December 17, 2011, 10:28:38 am
WOW! I never expected that deck to beat Half-Bloods! Some one post it in the archive for anti-halfblood decks.yea, some surprisin stats! from 20% to 80% by adding 3 cards!
Post by: Chapuz on December 18, 2011, 02:32:35 pm
Post by: Calindu on December 18, 2011, 05:58:22 pm
Is adrenavamps better than mitovamps?Yup, a little bit faster.
Post by: Chapuz on December 18, 2011, 06:23:32 pm
Post by: Alias on December 19, 2011, 09:27:29 am
There is still a deck to do. Darkness with Darkness.
I have decided to make a duo deck for every element capable of kicking ASS. Once I have made them, I will test and tweak them against suitable opponents. They will be un-upped, war style decks.
Post by: Chapuz on December 19, 2011, 01:21:16 pm
Let me make a little joke ¬¬There is still a deck to do. Darkness with Darkness.I have decided to make a duo deck for every element capable of kicking ASS. Once I have made them, I will test and tweak them against suitable opponents. They will be un-upped, war style decks.
Post by: Phaser on December 19, 2011, 05:37:59 pm
Daggers need some love. And a mark of darkness for atk boost.
Post by: Djhopper :) on December 19, 2011, 07:54:10 pm
How about flying,blessed,momentumed,quinted, daggers in a arainbow just for fun?Huh?
Daggers need some love. And a mark of darkness for atk boost.
Post by: Alias on December 22, 2011, 08:51:43 am
Post by: Djhopper :) on December 22, 2011, 10:00:22 am
Phaser would like to see a darkness bow which relies on daggers to grant you wins and EM's. As a special edition, say.'Tis still a duo thread...
Post by: ralouf on December 22, 2011, 11:11:15 am
Post by: Alias on December 22, 2011, 12:09:22 pm
Post by: Phaser on December 22, 2011, 05:14:57 pm
Post by: Djhopper :) on December 22, 2011, 05:29:24 pm
I mean by flying a dagger,bless it, use momentum on it, and then use LS and quint.-Why is that relevant?
-Vampire Dagger or Other Dagger?
-Why Mark of Darkness for attack boost?
Post by: Calindu on December 22, 2011, 06:17:36 pm
1.Who uses normal daggers?I mean by flying a dagger,bless it, use momentum on it, and then use LS and quint.-Why is that relevant?
-Vampire Dagger or Other Dagger?
-Why Mark of Darkness for attack boost?
2.Who uses normal daggers when you can use vamp dagger?
Post by: ralouf on December 22, 2011, 10:45:38 pm
Hmm I'll prefer use vamp dagger and buff it then, still thread belongs to duo deck and you seems to be off topic
Post by: Djhopper :) on December 23, 2011, 10:05:07 am
AW yeaaah darkness mark for +1 attack to the crappy dagger okaayy !![/end off-topic]
Hmm I'll prefer use vamp dagger and buff it then, still thread belongs to duo deck and you seems to be off topic
Post by: Phaser on December 27, 2011, 09:08:02 pm
Post by: Chapuz on December 27, 2011, 10:48:12 pm
Do you mind if I did a similar series but with fire instead of darkness?Look at this thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,34850.msg469478#msg469478) and then do whatever you want ^^
Post by: Djhopper :) on December 28, 2011, 09:13:58 am
Do you mind if I did a similar series but with fire instead of darkness?Go ahead.
Post by: Puremisery on December 31, 2011, 07:52:05 am
Upgraded a few cards, added a few as well. Deck is devastating.
Post by: Djhopper :) on December 31, 2011, 09:36:36 am
Have fun!
Upgraded a few cards, added a few as well. Deck is devastating.
Post by: Phaser on January 01, 2012, 07:07:59 am
So..............SCARY!!!
Upgraded a few cards, added a few as well. Deck is devastating.
Post by: Toge111 on January 01, 2012, 06:42:22 pm
Post by: Chapuz on January 01, 2012, 06:45:09 pm
At first I was excited to see that there's thematical decks posted, but then I realized sticking to one element is gimping those decks. I tried some of those decks in OP's post against half-bloods. I lost all the games because darkness just doesn't deal enough damage effectively. There's some quanta denial here and some lifesteal there but nothing to make it work as coherent strategy.Actually, paralel LS dragons works better than expected.
Post by: Hexalan on October 31, 2012, 01:22:24 am
First time I used the death deck, my opponent played a titanium shield an enchanted it on the second turn. Then I didn't draw a parasite until right before I died.
Second time: Didn't draw a nightfall. The entire game.
Third game: Yeah, I drew a nightfall. All three in the starting hand. Immediately thereafter, all three bone walls. I got 2 pendulums.
Fourth game: I added like 10 bone pillars. Drew 4 deathstalkers and a single pillar first opening hand. Opponent puts up 20 damage worth of creatures by the third turn. And a jade shield.
It seems to suffer from severe lack of quanta and damage capability.
Post by: Opsinis on October 31, 2012, 01:28:40 am
lawl.Necro response:
First time I used the death deck, my opponent played a titanium shield an enchanted it on the second turn. Then I didn't draw a parasite until right before I died.
Second time: Didn't draw a nightfall. The entire game.
Third game: Yeah, I drew a nightfall. All three in the starting hand. Immediately thereafter, all three bone walls. I got 2 pendulums.
Fourth game: I added like 10 bone pillars. Drew 4 deathstalkers and a single pillar first opening hand. Opponent puts up 20 damage worth of creatures by the third turn. And a jade shield.
It seems to suffer from severe lack of quanta and damage capability.
This topic was started about a year ago. I wouldn't suggest it over some other player-freindly decks.
Plenty of other great decks on the forums that are up to date.